FDR able to pass the second bill of rights??

MAlexMatt

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These are similar to the "facts" bandied about in the 1970's by Paul Erlich in the "Population Bomb". Every generation some people seem to believe disaster is in the future. Tell you what, lets make a deal. Check back in in 30 years and let's see what's up.

I would actually be willing to put it down to the fact that our civilization has been Christian for so long. It permanently lodged the idea in our collective consciousness that the apocalypse is just around the corner and God will judge those who don't conform to His Law.
 
I would actually be willing to put it down to the fact that our civilization has been Christian for so long. It permanently lodged the idea in our collective consciousness that the apocalypse is just around the corner and God will judge those who don't conform to His Law.

Lots of religions, maybe even the majority, have some kund of apocalyptic future. Ragnarok, Revelations, Last Judgement. You see it even in non-religous contexts, like some versions of the Singularity. This is deeper in human thought than just Christianity. People just seem to have trouble with the idea that the world's going to get along fine after they're gone.

On topic, if FDR tried to pass them through congress, I don't think he'd use exactly the same rights that he used for a speech clarifying his goals and principles.
 
These are similar to the "facts" bandied about in the 1970's by Paul Erlich in the "Population Bomb". Every generation some people seem to believe disaster is in the future. Tell you what, lets make a deal. Check back in in 30 years and let's see what's up.

I would actually be willing to put it down to the fact that our civilization has been Christian for so long. It permanently lodged the idea in our collective consciousness that the apocalypse is just around the corner and God will judge those who don't conform to His Law.

The idea that "the end is near" is greatly tempered by the understanding that no one knows when that end will come, it could be today or 13 months and 6 days form now or 150 years from now or 500+ years from now. Christian theology generally teaches that we who believe in Christ should live each day to the glory of God and not worry about the apocalypse around the corner.

Besides, Erlich and others are not basing their cries of doom & collapse on religious or theological grounds, but on scientific and other secular grounds.

On topic, I agree w/Hylleddin, if FDR had tried to pass his ideas through Congress, the rights and principles included in his famous speech would be refined and tweeked before being introduced as legislation..
 
By comparatively tiny amounts, especially by comparison to the libertarian fantasizing of Tea Party faction members.

By the standards of the USA, Western Europe remains much gentler on its poor and unemployed than the US. In Sweden, for example, they don't even have or need food banks. And I know a guy who's from Sweden - he drives a car, owns a house, does all the things Americans do.

That's great empirical evidence:rolleyes:
 
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