FBWI:What's going to happen in this century (XIX century)

its not a mob, its called a election!

An election is a group of intelligent, informed men getting together to select a representative. The vast bulk of your voters are neither intelligent or well-informed.

(OOC: Speaking as a pre-Reform, pre-Responsible Gov't Upper Canadian Loyalist Landowner, of course. ;))
 
An election is a group of intelligent, informed men getting together to select a representative. The vast bulk of your voters are neither intelligent or well-informed.

(OOC: Speaking as a pre-Reform, pre-Responsible Gov't Upper Canadian Loyalist Landowner, of course. ;))
well its working quite well for us
 
The United States has already held its own in an undeclared war with France.
If for some reason Britain should fight it, it would only lose British North America. Whilst they could blockade American ports, the US could survive those blockades.

The US is building turnpikes and might yet build major canals, and will become a major economic power.
The 1800 census showed 5.3 million, and the 1810 census might show 7 million or more. All of Britain and Ireland might be 17 million, but it is a fairly static number, in a few decades the US shall surpass it.
With the Louisiana purchase the US has vast lands to expand its population.

Madison will easily win this coming election and continue the successful policies of President Jefferson.
 
An election is a group of intelligent, informed men getting together to select a representative. The vast bulk of your voters are neither intelligent or well-informed.

I agree, wholeheartedly.

Zyzzyva said:
(OOC: Speaking as a pre-Reform, pre-Responsible Gov't Upper Canadian Loyalist Landowner, of course. ;))

(OOC: For me, speaking as a pre-Reform, pre-Responsible Gov't French-Canadian who just happens to be in the minority that supports Britain.)
 
The United States has already held its own in an undeclared war with France.

And lost money via trade in the process.

BCO said:
If for some reason Britain should fight it, it would only lose British North America. Whilst they could blockade American ports, the US could survive those blockades.

I would severely doubt the US surviving such a thing. If Britain blockaded American ports, that would only severely choke the American economy to death, and thus would force Americans to be back under the Crown once more.

BCO said:
Madison will easily win this coming election and continue the successful policies of President Jefferson.

They're all loonies. What else are you going to expect from a mob?
 
I would severely doubt the US surviving such a thing. If Britain blockaded American ports, that would only severely choke the American economy to death, and thus would force Americans to be back under the Crown once more.

In the last 10 years, the US has built a huge number of turnpikes. It doesn't need much external trade, and now internal trade is no longer dependent upon ports.
 
Personally, I wonder what will happen with China. The qings have been in decline for quite some time now. I think that Russia will take it, and perahps the British will take Japan.

In the Americas, I can see the Spaniards losing thier colonies, as well as the Portuguese. Perhaps large conglomerations of their colonies will form.
 
Personally, I wonder what will happen with China. The qings have been in decline for quite some time now. I think that Russia will take it, and perahps the British will take Japan.

In the Americas, I can see the Spaniards losing thier colonies, as well as the Portuguese. Perhaps large conglomerations of their colonies will form.

Great Qing is still the dominant power in East Asia, and I doubt that they will be going anywhere anytime soon. However, their was recently an anti-Manchu uprising that occurred around the same time as the French Revolutionary Wars were raging in Europe. Although it has since been crushed, it has shattered the myth that the Manchu’s were unbeatable. I predict that we shall see more rebellions soon, some likely financed by outside groups, perhaps mainly the Russian Empire.

On the question of whether or not the Russian Empire will conquer Great Qing, I say no. For starters, the people of that state are as far from European as the Indians of my continent are. Second, there are many more of them then there are of the Russian peoples, and such a dangerous influx of insiders would be damaging to the Russian Empire. Besides, the Russian Empire has far bigger problems with Europe.

On Japan, I think it will most likely stay isolated from the rest of the world, as it has for centuries. Besides, any invasion force would face a determined resistance which has many bases in the mountains that make up the large portion of those islands, and would likely cause more costs in its conquest then would be gain afterward.

I do agree that the Kingdom of Spain, and its brother, the Kingdom of Portugal, will soon see the loss of most of their colonies in the Americas by the end of this generation. However, I expect to see the colonies descend into despotism, the old system of governance suddenly disappearing.
 
I think, long-term, the emphasis on colonization by European powers shall shift away from the Americas, and towards Africa, the East Indies, India, and Australia.

Already, the United States and Haiti have broken away from their former colonial masters, and Spain is having increasing difficulty holding onto its colonies, especially with what the French are doing to their motherland. Portugal may also see either a separation of Brazil or perhaps Brazil dominating the two. Spain, perhaps the greatest of the world's powers at one point, is done as a major power. Even if Britain loses its entire American colonial network to independence movements and US expansionism, they will still be a great colonial power through their effective dominion over most of India and Australia, as well as African and Pacific ports.

I expect an increasing amount of republican/democratic sentiment through the world. While the French revolution hasn't done too much for liberty (though, bad as Napoleon may be, his 'enlightened despotism' is a bit better than the old Bourbons), both revolutionary and evolutionary developments will see more limited monarchs and republican movements. British politics is far from immune to this, though outright revolution is unlikely; I expect substantial evolutionary reforms in coming years - Catholic emancipation, perhaps.

Probably the 3 biggest powers in the next few decades will be Britain, France, and Russia. Beyond that, who knows... China? the United States? Portu-Brazil? Great Republic of New Granada? Hapsburg resurgance? Sweden? Who knows...
 
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