As far as knowledge of the holocaust is concerned it is worth noting that the essential facts of it were reported in OTL in 1942 by Ed Murrow.
Theoretically possible but definitely unlikely, since Nazi empire shall have rather less economic problems than SU, so a collapse more radical than the USSR grows rather unlikely.
As far as knowledge of the holocaust is concerned it is worth noting that the essential facts of it were reported in OTL in 1942 by Ed Murrow.
1. Economic strangulation is definitely much less of a problem for the Nazis since they control all of continental Europe and in all likelihood most of Africa and the Middle East. They can tap on a much better share of world population, industry, and resources. This is compounded by 2, below, which makes them less dependent on external trade links (e.g. they most likely never develop a food deficit).
2. The circumstantial evidence of history is strongly in favor of fascism being rather less harmful to economy than communism. While almost surely they develop a technological and economic gap with the USA in the very long run, it's never going to be as severe as the Soviet one.
3. Constant low-intensity terror attacks are not that much harmful on the economy, see Israel, UK, Spain.
1.The Nazis have no colonies or control in the middle east or Africa even though the British empire has expanded so theyll have at least some influence but not enough to use the Arican and Middle Eastern peoples as a labour force.
2.I agree fascism,at least economically tends to be superior to communism but if you lok at the Nazi curriculum in schools that amount of militarism and hatred is seriously going to have an effect on your buisness opportunities.
Als it would be hard to find a country that would actually deal with a Nazi Germany outside their puppets at least the Soviets could still trade with non-comecon members.
3.Id disagree I mean the terror attacks on Berlin alone look pretty frequent with in the space of a few days,soviet partisans kill an SS officer and his wife and March acts like hes hearing about an average murder case.
Also Britain and Spain are peanuts compared to the amount of hatred for the Nazis and presumably massive amounts of popularity for Partisan movements,even Israel is better off as not that many people openly support Hamas and Hezbollah but these partisans and the Soviet Union will probably have international sympathy in the non fascist world.
Very very bad idea. Post-Nazi Germany is still going to have a truckload of nukes and conventional weapons, it is very unlikely that the collapse of the regime would completely stop their ability to use them (as many posters have stated, this Nazi Germany has less reasons than SU to collapse, so any regime fall is likely going to be less severe in disruption of the state machinery and the military), and even any reasonable post-Nazi democratic Germany would still almost surely find a casus belli in large-scale ethnic cleansing of its nationals. Collective guilt over Nazi atrocities in post-Nazi Germany is almost surely going to be as half-hearted as the one about Communist atrocities in post-Soviet Russia, if not even lesser than that, definitely not enough to make the German people meekily accept the ethnic cleasing of millions of nationals in retaliation.
To make a comparison, how post-Soviet Russia would have reacted if post-Soviet Ukraine had stated "Well, Stalin's Holodomor gives us the moral right to expel/kill our Russian minority". In the best of cases, it would have been Russian tanks rolling back in Kiev. In the worst, it would have been Kiev getting a nuclear tan (for the purposes of the comparison, I'm neatly ignoring the fact that OTL post-Soviet Ukraine did have some nukes of their own, since it is very questionable whether rump SU would have them; IMO one of the unwritten rules in the Cold War between Nazi Germany and the USA is that the rump SU is not allowed to have nukes of their own). And neither America nor Europe would have have dared react to armed retaliation against such a clear-cut casus belli.
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At the very least the USSR will claim most of its land back, as any German settlers will still be vastly outnumbered by Slavs etc.
The Germans may hang on to parts of Belarus or Ukranie, but Moscow and Caucas? I doubt it...A post-Nazi leadership will be to busy trying to get their house in order to worry much about keeping hold of land were the people have spent the last 20 year fighting them to the death.
Chances are the German population and Wehrmacht will be war-weary and suffering from a post collpse malise similar to but not as bad as Russia's.
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Yes probably a situation similar to the Soviet collapse yet much more extreme
I doubt they would get parts of the Ukraine or Belarus,maybe parts of Poland though
It would be much worse than the Soviet collapse not better,the collapse of the Nazi regime will be very bloody
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It'll be a funny world with a 'Greater Germany' still around with the USSR regaining its former land, and still very pissed off about the 20+ years of crap they just went through.
Poland for sure, the Baltics and part of western Ukranie and Belarus could be settled to a poiny where Germany wont just give them up.
Germany itself has no real ethnic problems at this point aside from maybe the Czechs. There'd have to be an outright civil war for things to get really bad.
Possibly the post-war Nazi gradually adjust their ideology so that while Germans are still set up a rung above the rest, all Aryan Europeans are acknowledged to have a racial "special destiny" of global hegemony. Frighteningly, if they go this way, and the Nazi EU is good enough to sustain the livelihood of the WE masses, this angle could win substantial support for the system in Western Europe.