Fatherland DBWI: What do you think about the Beatles going on stage in Naziland?

Dr. No

True, it's after Mr Hitler's 75th birthday, but nonetheless it's very special that the Beatles are permitted to go on stage in Berlin six months from now, on May 7, 1964.

Some guys are suspicious to the Beatles on stage in Germany because they think they'd make themselves advocates of the Nazi regime.

What do you think?
 

Blue Max

The Militant One said:
Because of this, they'll never be popular in America.
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Forget America! I wonder if they ever going to be allowed to return home. The UK has had to swallow a lot of bitter pills to survive, but cozying up to a belligerent power with nuclear weapons pointed at it is unthinkable.

Its because these Beatles think that maybe they can usher in some kind of permanent peace in prevent the world from destroying itself in a nuclear holocaust. Yeah, like they are going to do what Neville Chamberlain could not accomplish.

I've heard the British Government is likely to arrest the Beatles for violating its trade Embargo with the National-Socialist State.
 

Admiral Canaris

Banned
What are you talking about? The British government is a loyal member of the EU and a staunch National Socialist supporter.

Or are you talking about Elizabeth's illegal government-in-exile in Canada?

(OOC: This thread appears to be based on the Fatherland novel.)
 

Blue Max

Admiral Canaris said:
What are you talking about? The British government is a loyal member of the EU and a staunch National Socialist supporter.

Or are you talking about Elizabeth's illegal government-in-exile in Canada?

(OOC: This thread appears to be based on the Fatherland novel.)
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That is nothing more than a glorified puppet regime that in no way, shape or form represents Britain. When that idiot Halifax took over and forced the rest of his country to come to terms, he did so against the will of his own people! Prominent War Hawks, like Winston Churchill and Anthony Eden attempted to wrestle control from Halfax, but then King Edward invened in favor of the idiotic, self-defeating peace deal that ultimately led to a puppet status!

Clearly the Elizabeth-Churchill-Eden government is the legitimate government of the United Kingdom, not this illegal, quasi-fascist thing with PM Moseley!
 

Temujin

I reserved this book three times from my local library but cannot seem to get anything through! Really want to read it.
 

Admiral Canaris

Banned
Blue Max said:
That is nothing more than a glorified puppet regime that in no way, shape or form represents Britain. When that idiot Halifax took over and forced the rest of his country to come to terms, he did so against the will of his own people! Prominent War Hawks, like Winston Churchill and Anthony Eden attempted to wrestle control from Halfax, but then King Edward invened in favor of the idiotic, self-defeating peace deal that ultimately led to a puppet status!

Clearly the Elizabeth-Churchill-Eden government is the legitimate government of the United Kingdom, not this illegal, quasi-fascist thing with PM Moseley!
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Are you, too, one of those bitter Brits in exile who won't appreciate Europe's achievements? Think for a moment what would've happened if Britain had continued to serve as the USA's lapdog in Europe: Military disaster, economic ruin, the dismemberment of the Commonwealth. King Edward did the only thing a true patriot could. And not only is our Britain not bankrupt today, the economy is booming in delivering supplies to Germany's projects in the East. The Commonwealth, minus the American puppet in Canada, is stronger than ever; we may have had to cede Palestine and Transjordan to the Grand Mufti, but India remains in our sphere.

Meanwhile, you exiles live off the scraps the Americans throw you and would rather have the Commonwealth independent than under the noble British crown. Look who's talking...
 

Dr. No

OOC: Isn't it ironic that a big Beatles poster can be seen in the streets of Germania of the Fatherland movie though Britain is supposed to be a Nazi puppet? How does this match with a band from the free West going on stage in a totalitarian country as e. g. the Scorpions did in Moscow sometime in the 1980s?
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Blue Max

This is totally outrageous!

That idiot Halifax ALLOWED GERMAN TROOPS to safeguard the UK against "Terroristic Elements" like Churchill and Eden. No wonder that Clement Atlee was forced to resign after only a single month in office. UK "Democracy" is at least subject to German Veto--and there is no way to explain how some BUF wacktard manages to become PM.

The Legitimate British Republic is far more than Canada. It includes Australia, New Zealand, and parts of Southern Africa--more geographic territory than the miserable Manchester Regime you Nazi pukes installed.

I'll say it again: If the Beatles are coming to Canada, PM Eden is going to lock them up, as would any freedom loving individual. That a bunch of demented youths have a radically different view than reality is unfortunate, but this a movement in favor of a nuclear threat that we can not allow.
 

Admiral Canaris

Banned
Blue Max said:
This is totally outrageous!

That idiot Halifax ALLOWED GERMAN TROOPS to safeguard the UK against "Terroristic Elements" like Churchill and Eden. No wonder that Clement Atlee was forced to resign after only a single month in office. UK "Democracy" is at least subject to German Veto--and there is no way to explain how some BUF wacktard manages to become PM.

The Legitimate British Republic is far more than Canada. It includes Australia, New Zealand, and parts of Southern Africa--more geographic territory than the miserable Manchester Regime you Nazi pukes installed.

I'll say it again: If the Beatles are coming to Canada, PM Eden is going to lock them up, as would any freedom loving individual. That a bunch of demented youths have a radically different view than reality is unfortunate, but this a movement in favor of a nuclear threat that we can not allow.
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Say the Canadian exiles, who are basically a Territory of the USA like Alaska or Hawaii... too bad for you President Kennedy is warming up relations with the EU and probably about to recognise Britain as the true Britain, despite whatever the Churchill crowd might say. You are literally the analogue of the ChiComm exiles from China proper in the East; so small as to be insignificant.

The British government is not National Socialist; we preserve our political system, instead of throwing ourselves at anyone who'd have us after we betrayed king and country. And really, calling the pathetic guerrillas you support "part of South Africa" is a new low; the Empire's territories in Africa are as stable as ever. Though if you had your way, you'd want them under native warlords, wouldn't you? Well, that isn't going to happen.

And it's admirable that at least someone is working for peace in the world, as opposed to the American warmongers. Haven't our poor people seen enough conflict to last for this century.
 

vorkosigan

Dr. Nodelescu said:
Errr, we're talking about Beatles, I remember.
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Yeah, and they are writing some great stuff. Have you heard their latest:

"You don't know how unlucky you were boys
Back in the US
Back in the US
Back in the USSR"

and

"All you need is work
All you need is work
Work is all you need"
 

The Federalist

Admiral Canaris said:
Are you, too, one of those bitter Brits in exile who won't appreciate Europe's achievements? Think for a moment what would've happened if Britain had continued to serve as the USA's lapdog in Europe: Military disaster, economic ruin, the dismemberment of the Commonwealth. King Edward did the only thing a true patriot could. And not only is our Britain not bankrupt today, the economy is booming in delivering supplies to Germany's projects in the East. The Commonwealth, minus the American puppet in Canada, is stronger than ever; we may have had to cede Palestine and Transjordan to the Grand Mufti, but India remains in our sphere.

Meanwhile, you exiles live off the scraps the Americans throw you and would rather have the Commonwealth independent than under the noble British crown. Look who's talking...
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You sound soooo stupid! Here you are talking about the old UK being America's lapdog at the same time Britain's delivering supplies to German projects in the East! What does Britain care about German colonization of the East and its Slavic genocide there? What does that make the new UK? If the old UK was America's lapdog, the new one is Hitler's toilet wipe. Anyone who thinks Britain is doing great as part of the EU is just dumb, pathetic and the poor sorry victim of Fascist propaganda.

Even if you did believe wholeheartedly in Moseley, just know that he too has been reduced to German puppetry. Originally, he wanted a closed Empire-only economic system where Empire nations could only trade with other Empire-nations, now something like 60% of Britain's economic output and a large amount of its able workforce are sent to the construction of new German settlements in the East.

So have fun building Himmler's new Wewelsburg Castle, you Fascist lackey!
 
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Shimbo

Shimbo

Constantinople said:
Well seeing as Himmlers been dead for years, I dont think he could do that.
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I don't believe that he's really dead.

There is evidence that he escaped to Neuschwabenland and builds his forces there even as we speak. That traitorous dog Heydrich suppresses news of the master.

IMO: Heydrich will have his comeuppance yet.
 

sunsurf

What do you think of those conspiracy theorists who claim the Beatles and those other artists and entertainers visiting Germany are really undercover agents? :cool::rolleyes:
 

Atreus

sunsurf said:
What do you think of those conspiracy theorists who claim the Beatles and those other artists and entertainers visiting Germany are really undercover agents? :cool::rolleyes:
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IC: Just another load of rubbish. ALthough considering what the Nazi's have done to every nation they touch, I don't think it would be such a bad idea. ANd not that many British people are as happy with the Nazis or the BUF as they would like you to think.

SSIC: Internal Memo: judging from the discussion this topic, it would appear that the "beatles" false flag operation is a success. Given German paranoia, the SS will investigate the bands for agents. In the unlikely event that they should find the mole, that would be unfortunate for said mole, but a huge propaganda coup for us. Should they miss him, he can continue operating for us. In any case, they will be to busy watching the various bands to notice the primary agents being infiltrated...
 

NKVD

IC: I heard that some terrorist organizations might target the concert. Did you hear about the car bombings in Vienna last week?
 
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