Fate of Slavic cities in a Nazi victory?

Fate of Slavic cities in a Nazi victory?

  • All razed and destroyed

    Votes: 12 19.7%
  • Some would be razed and the rest abandoned

    Votes: 32 52.5%
  • It couldn't have been accomplished

    Votes: 17 27.9%

  • Total voters
    61

trurle

Banned
How long do you think it would take to raze a single Soviet town or city as you described above?
I think the sloreck describe the re-modelling of the city rather than razing. Also, looking on cities with significant Jewish population (like Vilnius) one can see the population decline about 50% from the combined German (eliminating Jews) and Soviet (eliminating Poles) actions. With firm German control, population decline of Vilnius is likely in 25-35% range.
Answering your question, taking apart a war wreckage and clearing roads typically takes about six months.
Overall, it is meaningless to describe a fate of generic "slavic city". The fate of the any given city was highly dependent on fortunes of war and the national composition. The Warsaw (68% decline) falls on the bad side, Smolensk (25% decline) on the good side, while cities like Vilnius (50% decline) are somewhat on the middle. I`d opt for 30% averaged decline of the population of Slavic cities followed by population rebound if the Germany would be able to control them for ten or more years.
 
I think this civil engineering question is sort of beside the point.
If the Nazis had defeated the USSR and occupied it to the Urals what would have happened to the various towns and cities in the occupied territories?....Would they all have been razed and destroyed/razed and rebuilt for German settlers?

The real crime was in the intent to starve 30 million people in eastern europe. See Goering's green folder. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Göring's_Green_Folder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunger_Plan

It's not always clear which of which Nazi's plans would have been realized.

But as it stood they murdered 6 million mostly Polish, Ukrainian and Byelorrussian Jews. Additionally 3 Million Soviet POWs died, many starved to death. And Timothy Snyder estimates another 4 million civilian deaths through starvation in occupied Poland and occupied western USSR.
 

Wendigo

Banned
All of this will take some time, but when you have millions of slaves who can be worked to death - and meeting quota means just enough food to stave off death (same system GULAG used btw) you can get a good deal done in clearing streets, tearing down damaged buildings and restoring services in relatively short order.

Generalplan Ost was supposed to take between 20 and 30 years. Would the razing/rebuilding of the Slavic cities in the East be completed by that deadline in your opinion?
 

trurle

Banned
Generalplan Ost was supposed to take between 20 and 30 years. Would the razing/rebuilding of the Slavic cities in the East be completed by that deadline in your opinion?
The Generalplan Ost was a nonsense, created by few top-notch Nazi leaders without enough consultation with the experts. After Germany reaching some sort of peace treaty it would be severely modified, and completion (assuming policy can be kept constant for that long) would take at least 400 years.
Actually, Jews in newly-formed Israel has implemented a practical modification of Generalplan Ost, just replacing Germans with Jews and Jews with Arabs. You can see the plans for Jewish colonization of West Bank and deportation of Arabs are not even halft-complete even after 69 years.:p
Some hard numbers: Soviet Union was able to expel Japanese Karafuto residents (half-million total) in 5 years. Assuming approximate parity in post-war ethnic cleansing funding in OTL Soviet Union and ATL Germany, the expulsion of 45 millions of "undesirables" from Generalplan Ost would take 180 years.

P.S. The planned German investment to re-settling plan of Generalplan Ost was ~760 $/acre. The actual farmland initial investment (tools, materials and infrastructure, but without needs for security, expulsion of former owners, and transfer of settlers) is about $30000/acre. All prices were converted to 2016 USD.
 
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