Fate of Italy in a CP victory

Italy literally stabbed in the back when broke the triple alliance, the rest of mittlematched would laugh, nobody in berlin loved italy.
How do you stay into a history-focused forum for nine years and still wave around that Italian Betrayal garbage? I expect that in many other contexts, but in a history-focused one?
 
How do you stay into a history-focused forum for nine years and still wave around that Italian Betrayal garbage? I expect that in many other contexts, but in a history-focused one?
Because is true(see location, that explain it) they thought they would dismember A-H but they were intelligent, changes sides and feels so arrogant because entente cut their 'gains' that is plain and simple, sorry if italians denied that
 
Because is true(see location, that explain it) they thought they would dismember A-H but they were intelligent, changes sides and feels so arrogant because entente cut their 'gains' that is plain and simple, sorry if italians denied that
Nope. The Triple Alliance was a defensive treaty since its inception; all of it only applied in defense of the allies, and not in case of aggression. This is pretty clear from the text, which - it's pretty obvious - you never bothered to read. There was the chance to intervene anyway, to one's heart's contents, but it was so transparent that Italy would have never considered helping A-H in a war of aggression (not after they tried to screw them in the Balkans with the conquest of Bosnia, that one against the treaty), that Germany actively tried to wring A-H's wrist to get them to cede Trent and Trieste to Italy, in order to convince them to join. A-H, who loathed Italy back just as much and had considered a preventive attack for decades (the last time in 1911, during the Italo-Turkish War, and before that immediately after the Messina Earthquake, as the Italian army had been deployed to Sicily to help the recovery effort, and before that in 1903), refused sternly.
 
The Triple Alliance was a defensive treaty since its inception; all of it only applied in defense of the allies, and not in case of aggression.

Yet the aggression was on the Italian side.

By Treaty, Italy didn't have to attack anyone.
Yet they chose to beat their heads against Austrian border passes.

Like the 2nd War, the only winning game for Italy is not to play.

Stay Neutral, get rich overcharging the CP for Trade, Trade that the UK will try block by buying it up first, raising prices even more
 
Italy got albany, you only get sick you don't get anything
You asked. I quote:

Article 7 said:
However, if, in the course of events, the maintenance of the status quo in the regions of the Balkans or of the Ottoman coasts and islands in the Adriatic and in the Aegean Sea should become impossible, and if, whether in consequence of the action of a third Power or otherwise, Austria-Hungary or Italy should find themselves under the necessity of modifying it by a temporary or permanent occupation on their part, this occupation shall take place only after a previous agreement between the two Powers, based upon the principle of a reciprocal compensation for every advantage, territorial or other, which each of them might obtain.
This is the whole matter. I can't see what you mean by "got albany" - Italy got recognition for a protectorate over Albania after WW1, and Aehrenthal straight-out refused any compensation for Italy, claiming that, as Bosnia had been declared a condominium at the Treaty of Berlin, it was Austrian and nothing had changed (which was plain drivel). Thus, no. Austria broke the treaty.

Yet the aggression was on the Italian side.

By Treaty, Italy didn't have to attack anyone.
Yet they chose to beat their heads against Austrian border passes.

Like the 2nd War, the only winning game for Italy is not to play.

Stay Neutral, get rich overcharging the CP for Trade, Trade that the UK will try block by buying it up first, raising prices even more
I absolutely do not disagree with this - WW1 gave Italy some slight advantages, but in the long run ended up messing up the country for half a century (and more). As you say, the only winning move would have been not to play at all.
 
Which minor princes? the last things the hasburg wanted was to join a country with the hohenzollenr and they already are a independent nation and A-H was figthing against terrorist wanted destabilize the nation, with enemies defeat they just ended their side of war, they will give men and their navy against GB but little can do thanks geography(plus austria wanted little central europe, they wanted a hasburg in polish throne) and they can breath now italy is defeated.


For what?

That will be sunk by the british and geography make impossible get any german or swedish coal.

Erhm ... didn't you and other Ententistas always argue(d), that due to the lack of coal available on the CP-side the italians would rather/always side with the Entente ??


this is rather strange. No, I would never argue that Italy couldn't fight Britain because of coal though some do. Its almost as bad as German East First scenarios.

1) Italian intervention/neutrality are the about the only realistic CP victory lines. If Italy joins the CP its likely either very early like August 1914. In this, France is likely beaten at the Marne and the war is over. Or she will enter late, after the Austro-Germans have defeated Russia. Again, the war will quickly end after Italian intervention and she would have had time to make preparations

Our timeline, Italy gets little coal from Britain anyway as Britian's coal production is stretched to the limit anyway. Italy can substitute wood for a lot of her coal production which is what she does OtL

2) The scenario is that the war is over anyway so why can't Italy get coal from France and Germany- who's coal production would be returning to normal. Finally, the Italian fleet can move to the coal

3) The Italian fleet is not junk and combined with the Austrian and or French is quite formidable. Britain is hard pressed to fight the Germans alone at sea and needs the French, Italian and American fleets to secure the sealanes. With a Germany freed from a land war and control over the Normandy coast, the British are going to be lucky to survive
 
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