Fate of a Hellenized Arabia in Roman Era

In a scenario where Alexander or his generals conquer most if not all of Arabia and is ruled by one of the Diadochi (and their descendants), how likely is it for a Hellenic Arabia to end up falling under Roman, Persia or even Aksumite rule?

Or would a Hellenic Arabia hold the distinction of being of the few (if not only) Diadochi descended dynasty that avoids Roman (or other) conquest for a significant period of time?
 

Albert.Nik

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Hellenic Arabia would have a large amount of Greek settlers and other people from around the region. The culture would be totally different and more Greek/Roman mixed. In the Roman era,if sufficiently big and strong,they could have a large Greek Empire spanning Levant,Jordan(Jordan or regions of it already had a Greek majority or near majority AFAIK),Egypt,Arabia and probably parts of Hellenized Ethiopia if possible. If not very strong,it could easily be absorbed into the Roman Empire and eventually made a Roman stronghold like Gaul. No Islam. Instead,Byzantine Orthodoxy would be the majority in Levant and Arabia and a large minority in the Egypt province.
 
In a scenario where Alexander or his generals conquer most if not all of Arabia and is ruled by one of the Diadochi (and their descendants), how likely is it for a Hellenic Arabia to end up falling under Roman, Persia or even Aksumite rule?

Or would a Hellenic Arabia hold the distinction of being of the few (if not only) Diadochi descended dynasty that avoids Roman (or other) conquest for a significant period of time?

I think Arabia's geography is a key factor here. The Hijaz (western coast of Arabia) naturally falls under Roman influence as it is nearby to Roman provinces in Palestine and Egypt. But the eastern side of Arabia, the Persian gulf and Oman, are much closer to Persia and were thus under Persian influence.

One question to consider is the fate of Yemen. Cultures such as Himyar existed there in late Antiquity and became quite powerful. But one must also ask: does the Marib dam still collapse in this scenario?

The Marib dam was a major feature and achievement of Arabian civilisation in the area that existed for centuries. It was a sophisticated water work which supported agriculture for miles around. Its collapse shortly before the birth of Muhammad caused tribes to disperse, with some migrating as far north as Palestine.

In any case I do see an opportunity for an independent Arabian kingdom in the highlands of Yemen. It's too remote for Romans or Persians to control. With time, perhaps they might even extend out to the Hijaz and beyond, becoming a notable power of the region.
 

Albert.Nik

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I think Arabia's geography is a key factor here. The Hijaz (western coast of Arabia) naturally falls under Roman influence as it is nearby to Roman provinces in Palestine and Egypt. But the eastern side of Arabia, the Persian gulf and Oman, are much closer to Persia and were thus under Persian influence.

One question to consider is the fate of Yemen. Cultures such as Himyar existed there in late Antiquity and became quite powerful. But one must also ask: does the Marib dam still collapse in this scenario?

The Marib dam was a major feature and achievement of Arabian civilisation in the area that existed for centuries. It was a sophisticated water work which supported agriculture for miles around. Its collapse shortly before the birth of Muhammad caused tribes to disperse, with some migrating as far north as Palestine.

In any case I do see an opportunity for an independent Arabian kingdom in the highlands of Yemen. It's too remote for Romans or Persians to control. With time, perhaps they might even extend out to the Hijaz and beyond, becoming a notable power of the region.
Hijaz even if falls under the Roman or Greek influence,is of less value to them. It is a land in the midst of a hot and barren desert. Even if they make it a trading colony,wouldnt be much worth without Himyar also being under their control. But one scenario not that far fetched could be a Greek conquest and settlement of Nubia from where Himyar is quite accessible via Sea route not very far. North Arabia already had a strong Greek community that survived for long in Jordan,Israel,Lebanon,etc and still exist today in smaller numbers AFAIK. You could have Greeks more dominant in these regions is one chance I think that could be easier relatively.
 
I think Arabia's geography is a key factor here.

Hijaz even if falls under the Roman or Greek influence,is of less value to them. It is a land in the midst of a hot and barren desert. Even if they make it a trading colony,wouldnt be much worth without Himyar also being under their control. But one scenario not that far fetched could be a Greek conquest and settlement of Nubia from where Himyar is quite accessible via Sea route not very far. North Arabia already had a strong Greek community that survived for long in Jordan,Israel,Lebanon,etc and still exist today in smaller numbers AFAIK. You could have Greeks more dominant in these regions is one chance I think that could be easier relatively.

Would agree on geography being a key factory, which brings to mind the unsuccessful Roman expeditions in OTL and cannot see it being any different with a Hellenic Arabia. Hence the ATL notion of a Hellenic Arabia managing to survive under a Diadochi descended dynasty for a significant period of time prior to declining and fall from some internal strife.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabian_Peninsula_in_the_Roman_era
 
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