Wolfpaw
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Thing is, they would take Belarus and Ukraine. It's basically impossible for them to win anyway, but we'll forget that for a second. Ukraine was basically the home of the Volunteers. Neither it nor Belarus had a strong national identity at the time: that was a Bolshevik creation. The Entente would support a white government and would allow it to destroy Germany's creations, Belarus and Ukraine, and they would be largely integrated into Russia before long.
I only said "if" because that would only be relevant in a CP-victory TL; of course they would otherwise take the Ukraine and Belarus. And it was hardly impossible for them to win. 1919 was the turning point in the war; if Denikin had been able to take Moscow in October, the Bolsheviks would have had their head cut off. You must remember that by 1919, the Bolsheviks were losing on all fronts, morale was frightfully low, and their borders had been reduced to that of medieval Muscovy.
The Baltic states thing is basically strategic. They hold St.Petersburg in a pincer grip, which had to be broken. The Soviets attacked Finland with this as their main reason.
Correct on the Finland part, 50% on the Baltic part. The Russians had felt the Baltic coast was rightfully theirs since they first crossed swords with Sweden.
I'm willing to play devil's advocate for old Denikin. Nobody's ever prooved to me that he, the most important of the White leaders and the one by far the most likely (that is, still never happening) of taking over Russia, was "fiercely antidemocratic". I imagine him as a Russian Hindenberg, which is hardly fascist.
And I think it unlikely that Denikin would restore the monarchy. in the short term at least. "Saving the republic" was less controversial. Even if the Romanovs do somehow return, it's not like they'll be anything besides puppets to the generals, and the generals will probably run a South-American/Wilhelmine style military dictatorship with no interest in a lot of foamy-mouthed radicals.
Valid point with Denikin; I never thought he was so bad either. But Kolchak would probably have been able to outmaneuver him politically. The monarchy would probably have been restored with severely curtailed power; a Tsar would have served as a figurehead for a shattered nation to rally around, especially if they were a popular figure like Grand Duke Nicholas.
Nationalism and orthodoxy don't have to equal fascism by any means. Modern America is a very patriotic, religious country.
I never said they did. I am saying that fascist elements would co-opt them and the traditional philosophy of "Autocracy, Orthodoxy, and Nationalism" to further their own ends.
Mladorossi was an emigre organisation. It had a very specific constituency: white officers who had fled. You act like it was a leading party in the Duma or something.
I was just using them as a model. Any fascist group that sprung up in Russia would have more than likely followed their philosophy of corporatist Tsardom.