Fascism without Nazism

Wasn't Salazar pretty popular? As were all of the "American fascist" types people love to throw into dystopias- Lindbergh, Coughlin, Long, etc.

Still, fascism today brings images of jackboots, death camps, and totalitarian police states, not the popular authoritarianism of the Latin/Catholic regimes. I wonder what would be the political epithet of choice if the Nazis and WWII never happened.



Is that Tradition, and all of the weird occult stuff?



I think you might be thinking of just regular liberal democratic capitalism, not state capitalism.


Uhmmmmm .... I suppose it'd depend on the outcome of the " World-views" struggle ... if the USSR is somewhat defeated, "Commie" would surely be used as a derogatory term, possibly on the same level of OTL's "Nazi". On the right side, "Reactionary" wuold probably still be the insulting definition for a conservative.

Yep, Tradition !

Naaaaah, trust me : when my beloved and now dead Socialist Party entered Government in the Sixties calling for Nationalization of electricity, Christian Democrats agreed and then transformed the National Authority for Electricity in a votes' multiplicator. Sadly, we Socialists learned that too :D
Just consider that in 1980, 58% of Italian industries was either of State's property or controlled by the Government through partecipation.
 
To the first bolded sentence: I think you can hardly say that Stalin's USSR or Mao's PRC are examplses of sympathy and egalitarianism, can you? To the second bolded sentence: condescent power and disgust pretty much define Mao's China and Stalin's SU, don't they?

But yet for fascism to go along, the people must support it and participate in it.
 
Nah, but the majority of it. Fact is, nobody truly objected to the war crimes, even when they knew they were comitted. In the Soviet Union, however, anyone who pulled the trigger did it only out of fear, not passion.
 
Nah, but the majority of it. Fact is, nobody truly objected to the war crimes, even when they knew they were comitted. In the Soviet Union, however, anyone who pulled the trigger did it only out of fear, not passion.

Sure, maybe Hitler and Mussolini looked like good guys when the Germans and Italians (respectively) voted them in, but the reason that the people didn't object to what their fascist regimes were doing is because the regimes in question had the guns.
 
Sure, maybe Hitler and Mussolini looked like good guys when the Germans and Italians (respectively) voted them in, but the reason that the people didn't object to what their fascist regimes were doing is because the regimes in question had the guns.

Mussolini's regime enjoyed widespread popularity till the racial laws and the war: a fair general election held in 1936 would probably result in a two thirds Fascist majority or similar ...
 
In Italy it would probably be seen, today, as Peronism in Argentina. Considering how fragmented is the 2,5% of italian neofascists, we would probsbly have at least 3 or 4 parties claiming to be the true heirs of Mussolini's policies.

Considering how many Peronist parties there are in Argentina I can say that is a safe bet.
 
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