Kosta
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Love that you're doing things with Japan, one of my favorite nations. If I have to bleed to resurrect PS1, pass the knife, please
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Love that you're doing things with Japan, one of my favorite nations. If I have to bleed to resurrect PS1, pass the knife, please
Okay then, Verne doesn't work as the Second Empire lasted until at least the European War (its fate afterwards has never been revealed AFAIK).
As for Carver, his entry contradicts several posts showing the Confederacy to be a stable great power, and race relations are actually slightly better worldwide.
I'd say race relations in this CSA would be about 30 years behind race relations in the US of OTL as a whole. So racist a CSA is pretty accurate and we always had the CSA as more racist than the North. The USA is the nation that is more racial progressive than it was in the OTL. How that happened is someone posted a black president in the 50's and we had to cope.
I don't know what the Carver post specifically contadicts though.
Since we're adding -though I'd prefer to let sleeping dogs lie-:
D.W. Griffith: Film maker and emigrant to the Confederacy. Griffith is notable for his seminal work "Birth of a Nation" about the creation of the Confederacy. While the first feature length film, and while its portrayal reinvigorated racism, white superiority and the Klan in the South (where it remains popular to varying degrees in the modern age), it saw a major backlash in the Union which the film had condemned along with blacks. This in turn led ironically to better race relations in the North, which leaped ahead decades. His next film, "The Hunt For Dishonest Hannibal" about a mythologized hunt for Hannibal Hamlin in a world where the South took over all of the United States had a similar effect.
I don't know what the Carver post specifically contadicts though.
Since we're adding -though I'd prefer to let sleeping dogs lie-:
D.W. Griffith: Film maker and emigrant to the Confederacy. Griffith is notable for his seminal work "Birth of a Nation" about the creation of the Confederacy. While the first feature length film, and while its portrayal reinvigorated racism, white superiority and the Klan in the South (where it remains popular to varying degrees in the modern age), it saw a major backlash in the Union which the film had condemned along with blacks. This in turn led ironically to better race relations in the North, which leaped ahead decades. His next film, "The Hunt For Dishonest Hannibal" about a mythologized hunt for Hannibal Hamlin in a world where the South took over all of the United States had a similar effect.
I'm sorry - was this thread supposed to be for a single TL? In which case, please ignore.
Bruce
Love that you're doing things with Japan, one of my favorite nations. If I have to bleed to resurrect PS1, pass the knife, please
I'm Heavily Reponsible for setting Up PS-1's Japan, thanks.
THat's not a knife, this is a knife.
actually, you can edit it around to make it fit better.
I just felt the timeline needed some more fleshing out before we put it to rest. Thus far we still have no entries for South Africa (beyond the war they fought with the US of Africa), Spain, the Andean Nations (hence my Pinochet post), and Australasia. On that note, lets get the ball rolling:
Carlos Irwin Estevez: Prime Minister of the Kingdom of Spain. It is largely a do-nothing position, as all real power is held by the king, Luis Alphonso I de Borbon-Parma. Estevez spends his time getting into scandals involving drugs and women.
Mwalimu Kambarage Nyere: Founding father of the United States of Africa, comprised of Tanganyika, Zanzibar, Rhodesia, Nyasaland, Kenya, and Bechaunaland.
Fujimori Cardinal Ken'ya: The first Asian cardinal deacon,and a very controversial figure amongst Vatican circles.
La Vulpini: Born Susana Shizuko Higuchi, leader of the Andean rebels in the ongoing South American War.
Carlos Irwin Estevez: Prime Minister of the Kingdom of Spain. It is largely a do-nothing position, as all real power is held by the king, Luis Alphonso I de Borbon-Parma. Estevez spends his time getting into scandals involving drugs and women.
Mwalimu Kambarage Nyere: Founding father of the United States of Africa, comprised of Tanganyika, Zanzibar, Rhodesia, Nyasaland, Kenya, and Bechaunaland.
Fujimori Cardinal Ken'ya: The first Asian cardinal deacon,and a very controversial figure amongst Vatican circles.
La Vulpini: Born Susana Shizuko Higuchi, leader of the Andean rebels in the ongoing South American War.
Kosta
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Yes!!! Thank you for finally deciding what nations the USAfrica is made up of! On the topic of Africa we have...
*Libya, Eritrea, half of Somalia-Greek owned
*Egypt-Combined w/ Syria for some Arab union thingy
*USA in Africa- East Africa
*Ethiopia-Emperordom that annexed the Sudan.
*West Africa-Owned by Austria-Hungary. Fate unknown after AH collapsed and went commy.
I think the British & French still own some nations.
Lets see, off the top of my head, here's what I can remember:
Egypt - Unclear, as everything I've seen on this thread about them is contradictory
Libya, Eritrea, Greek Somaliland - Greek
Most of OTL British East and Southern Africa - The US of Africa
Nigeria - independent
Gold Coast - independent
South Africa - Unclear, other than Xhosa and the USAfrica/SAfrica War
Algeria, Tunisia - Roman
Ethiopia - Roman until the World War
Sudan - I'm not sure where that Ethiopia annexed Sudan part came from. I'll need details as that is very important to the Africa portion
West Africa - I've seen, alternatively, French West Africa, Austrian West Africa, and an independent nation simply called "West Africa"
Morocco - Unclear
Central Africa - Unclear, other than Bokassa has a French name, so it can be presumed that French Equitorial Africa still existed. Congo's a much more gray area
Portuguese Africa and Madagascar - Unclear
So it looks like Africa is the region the most in need of fleshing out
Kosta
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When Emperor Norton allowed me to make a revised, Greek-friendly map I reshaped Libya to its pre-WWII shape (missing those two spikes in the south). I combined Ethiopia saying that after Britain left the Sudan, Ethiopia swooped in and took it with Greek help (you can be assured that was Greek friendly. What nation would a staunchly Orthodox country want to neighbor them? Protestant British, freed Muslims, or fellow Orthodox people). No one made any objections and so I thought it could be accepted.Of course with Ethiopia being Roman during WWII, if it's even accepted it'll have to be post-WWII.
Egypt does seen to be a bit...unclear.
When I was more into a greedy-Greece I inquired about a Greek Egypt. I was informed the British would not let that happen. I asked another question about Egypt and was told it was in personal union (or unified, something along those lines) with Syria.
I also though Algeria was French.
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The movement, started in 48, but the war was over some Territory in the 70's.
Kinda like Texas I guess.
While I'm at it....
Kohta Hirano: Major in the IJN.
John Cho: One of Chan Kong sang's Lieutenants. Responsible for the Distribution of 'White Castle' (Cocaine) in Chan's racket.
hm, so far I turned Steven King, Jackie Chan, Rei Hiroe and Daniel Day-lewis into Mobsters.
Kohta Hirano: Major in the IJN.
John Cho: One of Chan Kong sang's Lieutenants. Responsible for the Distribution of 'White Castle' (Cocaine) in Chan's racket.
hm, so far I turned Steven King, Jackie Chan, Rei Hiroe and Daniel Day-lewis into Mobsters.
Kosta
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How much will the USA expand?
I'd also like to propose a counterpart of the USA. I was thinking about the West African states and I thought maybe that the former French territories and the former Austrian ones could become a nation on par with the USA, only a more aggressive one being lead by an overly ambitious and ferocious Mali.
When I thought of how the Spanish, Portuguese, and British colonies might be left out, some could join on their own volition, some be conquered, and for some variety Nigeria join the USA (which could even breed a war between the 2 African States)
I'd also like to propose a counterpart of the USA. I was thinking about the West African states and I thought maybe that the former French territories and the former Austrian ones could become a nation on par with the USA, only a more aggressive one being lead by an overly ambitious and ferocious Mali.
When I thought of how the Spanish, Portuguese, and British colonies might be left out, some could join on their own volition, some be conquered, and for some variety Nigeria join the USA (which could even breed a war between the 2 African States)
If I remember correctly, there's the USafrica, some kind of West Africa Union and South Africa.
I'll leave africa to you though.
Kosta
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Sorry I just shortened USAfrica to the USA, probably should have specified. If you guys are okay with it, I'd be more than happy to work on Africa.
I would say Finance Minister Gloria Arroyo, who has been the strongman of the Cabinet, and in effect Acting Prime Minister since the late PM Aquino was diagnosed nearly eighteen months ago. She is easily expected to defeat Bongbong Marcos whenever she decides to dissolve Parliament. Polls show LAKAMPI winning another landslide majority.
*Instead of Martial Law, Marcos and the Con-Con created a parliamentary system as GMA is trying IOTL.
*Instead of Martial Law, Marcos and the Con-Con created a parliamentary system as GMA is trying IOTL.
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