Fallout 3
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Wrong.
In the Fallout universe, the U.S. reorganized itself into thirteen commonwealths following the Second World War. The prosperity and good feelings of the Fifties continue until the Great War in 2077.
And Television never evolved beyond the early 1960's level and remains in black and white, while radio retains much of its dominance. Likewise, anything recorded before 1954 on a record has nuked to dust.
And the Red Scare and McCarthyism are still up and about.
And the Red Scare and McCarthyism are still up and about.
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Really, Okay I bring up an interesting point from their wiki http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Divergence
Read.
Read.
Actually there is a POD in that in the Fallout TL the transistor is never invented, which is why everything looks so retro because it still uses vacuum tube technology. Of course they probably just came up with that explanation after the game came out to justify why they had done those design choices.
Very true, that's why the Pip-boy has about the functionality of an early 90's gameboy but is state of the art in 2077. Of course, somehow they were able to invent holographic projectors, AI, cryogenic freezing, and fusion power all with said technology. The Chinese are also strange, because they are seem to be stuck in the 70's, (well the US is stuck in 50's)
The POD in the Fallout universe would be the beginning of the universe. Not only is society stuck in the '50s, but science is, too - and not just in terms of scientific progress. The scientific laws themselves are different. The way that the natural world behaves is not how it behaves in our world, but how it behaved according to '50s sci-fi. For example, radiation in the Fallout universe creates zombies and makes bugs the size of cars, while in real life, it simply kills and/or sterilizes. Also, if I recall, the transistor had been invented in the Fallout universe... sometime in the 2060s. Microchips still hadn't come about, though.
The thing is, even with the transistor (which i vaguely remember that they might have recently invented)they achieved a high level (improbably so) of miniaturization of vacuum tube technology. And for some reason, the primary nuclear weapon technology is very large airdropped bombs (Tsar Bomba size physically not yield wise.) The widespread technology i.e. Russian powered cars, and miniature .0001 Kiloton nukes is also pretty far fetched but the fallout world is based on Science! not science (as the fallout wiki article also said)
Radiation does not effect things differently though. What causes ghouls, mutants, and other changes is the FEV virus which was let out in the world. FO1 and FO2 explained it as such, and are considered canon, FO3 is a piece of crap. A lame shooter pretending to be a great RPG.
What one needs to understand is that the Fallout universe has a POD around 1950. Fusion power is invented, and computer chips are not. These means the raw power for really crazy ideas is there, but not the computering power. The orginal pipboy went on your belt, and had vacuum tubes sticking out of it. Power armor was made due to a small reactor in the back. Robots were powered thanks to fusion cells, and programs thanks to memory tapes.
The game FO3 annoys me to no end, if it was merely a fallout tribute I'd say it was pretty good, but in truth it took the RP out of the game and made it Oblivion with guns. It is almost 300 years since the nuclear war, and it looks like it is a few only decades afterwards, everyone has computers, utterly recalls the past, and expect for two cities everyone lives in ruined cities with no signs of any clean up. Plus why is there a 300 year old massive robot?
What one needs to understand is that the Fallout universe has a POD around 1950. Fusion power is invented, and computer chips are not. These means the raw power for really crazy ideas is there, but not the computering power. The orginal pipboy went on your belt, and had vacuum tubes sticking out of it. Power armor was made due to a small reactor in the back. Robots were powered thanks to fusion cells, and programs thanks to memory tapes.
The game FO3 annoys me to no end, if it was merely a fallout tribute I'd say it was pretty good, but in truth it took the RP out of the game and made it Oblivion with guns. It is almost 300 years since the nuclear war, and it looks like it is a few only decades afterwards, everyone has computers, utterly recalls the past, and expect for two cities everyone lives in ruined cities with no signs of any clean up. Plus why is there a 300 year old massive robot?
Gah. I too was a big fan of F1 and F2, and was very upset in the whole craze about a new company is going to mess it all up. However I was plesently surprised by F3. Sure, its not old school Fallout, but you just have to move on.
(And its only 200 years
)Then they should have just made their own Post Apoclowhatever universe and left Fasllout alone. They bought a name and added it to something that is not that great. Yes it was interesting, but it was more like a shooter then an RPG. More over the humor, and feel of the other games was not in FO3. You never had any real challenge to accomplish anything outside of a fight. Int he past games you could be a thief, or be a diplomat, or any number of things that did not require you to have nothing but fighting stats to even think of winning the game. If you enter a town you did not get the massive quest right off you had to work for it, get side missions build up trust till they gave you want you wanted.
Worst off who wrote the story for FO3? Did they switch writers halfway through and forget the plot that they established? A vault means no one gets out or in, and you then learn you were born outside the vualt and these rather elitest fellows just let you waltz in?
Gah. I too was a big fan of F1 and F2, and was very upset in the whole craze about a new company is going to mess it all up. However I was plesently surprised by F3. Sure, its not old school Fallout, but you just have to move on.
(And its only 200 years
Why? Why do I have to move on and accept games that suck? Everyone wants graphics, not storyline or gameplay! I hate when people throw out that the graphics are great, and the fighting solid so it makes up for the storyline, and massive plotholes. I mean GTA IV is a good game with a good storyline. FO3 is a pretty game with a bad storyline and rather repetitive gameplay. Its like adventure games, I like them most people do not, I still look for them though. I liked Interplay and TW games cause they were entertaining, had good storylines, and made sure you did not just go in a rather straight path. FO3 without sidequests is a straight path of one quest then the next.
FO3 did have sidequests. Besides, you dislike it because you played mostly the older ones by the other company. So, of course you're not going to like it when someone else is behind the whell. When Beth-whatever released Fallout 4, all the current fans of FO3 will love it, and when someone buys out Beth, then they're going to hate Fo5 and the next-gen will love it.
Because it doesn't suck, you only think it does because of preconceived notions that it would be bad. I will grant that the ending failed epicly, but thats about it. I'm not in it for the graphics, hell, I just got done playing a game made in 97, and it had bad graphics for the day, and for two hours! My comp can't even run F3 on good graphics settings, complete with ugly water due to errors and glitches (my comps fault, not the game).
I did play F1 and F2 first, back in the day, and yes, they are some of my all time favorites. But, seriously, thats not how games work anymore.
(on a side note, this is my same stance with CnC3, but not RA3 as I hated RA2 so 3 just makes it worse)
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I played it from begining to end, and the overall experince was not "wow best game ever!" It was good, I have said that before, but it was good in the wow factor. Stuff blew up, monsters head got ripped off, and all other things I found enjoyable were related to the combat. The conversations were not all that interesting, or for the matter well written. The quests were all go to point A, kill whats inside, and return. The storyline I did not like, and honestly thats the big deal for me. I did not care what happened to any character, or any NPC, or any faction. They all sounded the same, and except for different clothes every town had the noble guy doing what he thinks is right, the fellow agaisnt the towns interests, the girl down on her luck, the outcast, and the really smart guy who needs your help. I killed megaton to see an explosion, not cause I wanted more things, or felt slighted.
Yes this is the first one on a new console, designed not for the computer but a video game, yet at the same time I just did not like it. I know I am comparing this to the originals, and some feel that is bad of me. Move on! Well tell people who like Starwars to move on and accept the prequels. Also if I may I am not just using FO1 and FO2 as a guide here, many RPG's have managed this level of interaction, and violence while ensuring that the storyline and characters are the most important and not the wow facotr of the world. Arcanum, Bloodlines, Dues Ex, and others all somehow managed to be cutting edge for their time and still have storylines that added to the game play.
I'll say this: Bethseda used to be pretty good at storylines, and even more universes. Behold Daggerfall, Morrowind and Redguard, etc.
Whether they are so now, well...
Whether they are so now, well...