F*** The Stutz-Bearcat: An Alternate TL of Film

[Mr_ Bondoc]

Here are a few PODs to flag that the ATL is pretty dark:

April 13, 1931: Actress Clara Bow dies of a drug overdose in Hollywood, California, after suffering clinical depression brought on by alleged affairs with numerous actors, sparking international attention,....

August 9, 1935: Actress Loretta Young is scandalized after evidence of her abortion is revealed, after her affair with actor Clark Gable is revealed, ruining her image and standing with the Mormon Church in Salt Lake City, Utah,....

December 19, 1956: Actresses Elizabeth Taylor and Debbie Reynolds publicly brawl during the film premiere of Bundle of Joy amidst reports of affairs with Eddie Fisher, sparking international attention and concern,....

May 24, 1974: The Thorn written and directed by Bette Midler, makes its hit debut, attacking organized religion, featuring graphic nudity and hardcore sexuality, including scenes of the Apostles in a gay group sex scene, triggering riots in several states...

October 4, 1974: Female Trouble film directed by John Waters, is banned in several states amidst concerns about its graphic nudity, and hardcore sexuality, along with its attack on organized religion, sparking international attention,....

June 29, 1978: Actor Bob Crane is implicated in a major pornography/ sex ring, involving underage girls in Hollywood, California, with reports of films being created at his home in Scottsdale, Arizona, sparking international attention,....

August 17, 1979: Monty Python's the Life of Brian film directed by Terry Jones, starring John Cleese, and Eric Idle, triggers riots in several states, with social and religious conservatives condemning the film as "an attack against Christianity", sparking international attention,....

January 16, 1982: If You Love This Planet environmental documentary by Terre Nash is banned in many states, amidst accusations that the film is "foreign propaganda", sparking international attention and concern,...

August 12, 1988: The Last Temptation of Christ directed by Martin Scorsese, starring Willem Dafoe, Harvey Keitel, and Barbara Hershey, sparks riots upon its release, sparking international attention and concern about the "inflammatory content of the film"

 

[Mr_ Bondoc]

Here are a few PODs to flag that the Persian War will be considered a major disaster:

February 5, 1949: Navid Shomali, leader of Tudeh Party, launches the call for socialist revolution in Tehran, sparking international attention,...

August 19, 1953: British and American officials overthrow the government of Mohammed Mossadeq; Navid Shomali calls for the overthrow of Shah Mohammed Pahlavi, sparking international attention and concern ,...

July 13, 1957: Soviet leaders proclaim support for Tudeh guerrillas led by Navid Shomali at their 4th Plenum in Moscow, sparking international attention,...

May 1, 1965: "Toufan" (e.g. socialist guerrillas) led by Bani Sadr, launch armed insurrection across major cities in Iran, sparking international attention and concern,...

November 24, 1965: Harem Scarum film starring Elvis Presley and Ann Margaret , is released, promoting U.S. military involvement in Iran, sparking international attention,...

March 16, 1968: Nowruz Uprising; Tudeh forces launch a massive offensive against U.S. / U.K. Coalition forces in all major cities nationwide, shifting U.S. opinion against the war,...

March 14, 1969: Tudeh officers order the roundup and deportation of ethnic Kurds to re-education camps, sparking international condemnation and controversy,...

September 11, 1983: Tudeh leader Abdullah Mohtadi proclaims the United States, Israel and Great Britain as the "root of evil" in the Middle East,....

May 19, 1987: Tudeh leader Hamid Reza Chitgar is assassinated in Tehran, Iran triggering a massive succession crisis, fueling civil unrest in the region,...

 

[Mr_ Bondoc]

Is this an ATL that would be interested in having the United States purchase Greenland in 1946? Definitely let me know...

 

[Mr_ Bondoc]

One thing that I am surprised hasn't been brought up is the many movie theater or school shootings that have been brought up in almost every censorship debate. What effect would there be to calls for censorship in mass shootings took place 10-15 years earlier (1970s/1980s)...

 

[Mr_ Bondoc]

Here are a few PODs to flag the need for change:

February 12, 1967: (insert title here) film starring (insert 2-3 names here) is blamed for a mass shooting in (insert place here), sparking calls for film censorship regarding violent content,...

April 16, 1976: : (insert title here) film starring (insert 2-3 names here) is blamed for a mass shooting in (insert place here), sparking calls for film censorship regarding violent content,...

February 25, 1978: (insert title here) film starring (insert 2-3 names here) is blamed for a mass shooting in (insert place here), sparking calls for film censorship regarding violent content,...

December 25, 1978: : (insert title here) film starring (insert 2-3 names here) is blamed for a mass shooting in (insert place here), sparking calls for film censorship regarding violent content,...

March 11, 1979: (insert title here) film starring (insert 2-3 names here) is blamed for a mass shooting in (insert place here), sparking calls for film censorship regarding violent content,...

July 14, 1979: (insert title here) film starring (insert 2-3 names here) is blamed for a mass shooting in (insert place here), sparking calls for film censorship regarding violent content,...

January 19, 1980: (insert title here) film starring (insert 2-3 names here) is blamed for a mass shooting in (insert place here), sparking calls for film censorship regarding violent content,...

December 24, 1991: (insert title here) film starring (insert 2-3 names here) is blamed for a mass shooting in (insert place here), sparking calls for film censorship regarding violent content,...

 

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[Mr_ Bondoc]

Those are good points. The TL wouldn't change things instantly, or change the messages of most films, but it certainly change what messages were received by the public at large. Consider that messages from women, the LGBTQ, and people of color would certainly be heard by more people, rather than be edited out of history, but that this would certainly trigger local protests and bans...

 

[Mr_ Bondoc]

One thing that never took place in OTL is the possibility of "choose your own ending" films. This was a possibility starting in the 1980s/ 1990s. What if the idea of VCR/ DVD games actually gained traction and popularity?

 

[Mr_ Bondoc]

So are there any films that should be added to the TL?

 

[marktaha]

No Production Code prudery- maybe Cagney or Bogart allowed to win in their gangster movies.More sex outside marriage without unpleasant consequences. End to victimless crime laws?

 

[Mr_ Bondoc]

No Production Code prudery- maybe Cagney or Bogart allowed to win in their gangster movies.More sex outside marriage without unpleasant consequences. End to victimless crime laws?

Well if anything, definitely drop some PODs
I am certainly interested in what films and laws you can imagine...

 

[unclepatrick]

How about these movies?:

May 12, 1948: Bean Me Up, Scotty, a comedy, action-adventure movie starring French actor Mainfred Durant as a homosexual man fighting off angry, confused aliens and anti-LGBT killers, sparking calls for bans by conservatives, condemning the film for "attempting to normalize degenerate sexualities",....

June 12, 1956: Red Faction, starring Audrey Covington and Clifford Tomlinson as extremely underpaid and overworked workers who help lead a rebellion against the Cerebro Corporation, a mega-corp that symbolizes American greed and excess, sparking panics of "Communist Invasion of Hollywood",....

48 seem a little early for a film supporting Homosexuals.
OTL, the Film Crossfire , had to change from the reason the character was murder from being a Homosexual to being a Jew.
And that still generated controversy with the film being banned in the South as was the other Anti-Semitic Film of the Time, Gentleman Agreeement.
I realize that the POD means less censorship but the Studios are not going to spend money on films that will not play in parts of the Country .

I think that you might get away with it as a foreign film in 58 . It be possible in 68 in the US. But 48 is too soon for that film .

 

[Mr_ Bondoc]

48 seem a little early for a film supporting Homosexuals.
OTL, the Film Crossfire , had to change from the reason the character was murder from being a Homosexual to being a Jew.
And that still generated controversy with the film being banned in the South as was the other Anti-Semitic Film of the Time, Gentleman Agreeement.
I realize that the POD means less censorship but the Studios are not going to spend money on films that will not play in parts of the Country .

I think that you might get away with it as a foreign film in 58 . It be possible in 68 in the US. But 48 is too soon for that film .

Consider, as seen in the new Netflix series Hollywood, a little bit of wish fulfillment is certainly involved , especially when considering of race, gender and anti-Semitism. If anything, I think we certainly could use some positive timelines, considering the amount of gloom we already have on a daily basis,...

 

[unclepatrick]

August 12, 1988: The Last Temptation of Christ directed by Martin Scorsese, starring Willem Dafoe, Harvey Keitel, and Barbara Hershey, sparks riots upon its release, sparking international attention and concern about the "inflammatory content of the film"

True story.
One of the Baptist Churches here protested the one theater here in Huntsville Alabama , that was showing the "The Last Temptation " .
Since I had read the book, I decided to see the movie, since the Baptist did not want me to see it.
I got to the Theater and two of the Protesters were standing by the Ticket Window.
So I asked for a ticket to a different film.
I gave the ticket to the man inside and asked if I could go to a different film then the one I bought my ticket for.
He point to the Theater showing Last Tempatation.
I went in and there was 12 other people in the Theater.
After a few minutes, a guy came in and asked if this was the Theater for another film .
Someone responded that he thought it was the theater for a third film .
It turned out that no one bought a ticket for Last Tempatation .
We all got one for another film.

 

[Mr_ Bondoc]

True story.
One of the Baptist Churches here protested the one theater here in Huntsville Alabama , that was showing the "The Last Temptation " .
Since I had read the book, I decided to see the movie, since the Baptist did not want me to see it.
I got to the Theater and two of the Protesters were standing by the Ticket Window.
So I asked for a ticket to a different film.
I gave the ticket to the man inside and asked if I could go to a different film then the one I bought my ticket for.
He point to the Theater showing Last Tempatation.
I went in and there was 12 other people in the Theater.
After a few minutes, a guy came in and asked if this was the Theater for another film .
Someone responded that he thought it was the theater for a third film .
It turned out that no one bought a ticket for Last Tempatation .
We all got one for another film.

Consider that is one more reason I fear that #45 would take place. I certainly remember that there were even protests and calls for the ban of Monty Python's The Life of Brian and even for Monty Python and the Holy Grail. If anything, consider it may have other effects on pop culture...

 

[unclepatrick]

Consider that is one more reason I fear that #45 would take place. I certainly remember that there were even protests and calls for the ban of Monty Python's The Life of Brian and even for Monty Python and the Holy Grail. If anything, consider it may have other effects on pop culture...

A bit of irony, I first saw both Life of Brian and Holy Grail during the movies nights that my Church Youth Group use to do. Our "Adult" supervisor really did not pay attention to what films he showed us . The worst case was the time that he put the video tape of "I spit on your grave" on. He thought it was just another Slasher film .

 

[ANARCHY_4_ALL]

I am so glad I had my mother. Watched Halloween, Friday the 13th, Nightmare Before Elm St., etc. probably before I was 7. She was obsessed with Stephen King so I got to watch all his adaptations. This early introduction to horror cinema led me to become the cinephile I now am. I watch everything. But there is still a special love for horror.

 

[Mr_ Bondoc]

I am so glad I had my mother. Watched Halloween, Friday the 13th, Nightmare Before Elm St., etc. probably before I was 7. She was obsessed with Stephen King so I got to watch all his adaptations. This early introduction to horror cinema led me to become the cinephile I now am. I watch everything. But there is still a special love for horror.

Consider that up until Psycho in 1960, horror didn't feature much actual gore. As such one idea might be to show how the genre would change as a result of zero restrictions...

 

[ANARCHY_4_ALL]

I was more commenting on the others personal experiences with censorship. But even if not gore I could see horror ITTL dealing with more controversial subjects. Instead of the influx of supernatural horror in the 40's and 50's. We could see something more akin to the slasher. With films focusing on killers or home invaders.

 

[Mr_ Bondoc]

I was more commenting on the others personal experiences with censorship. But even if not gore I could see horror ITTL dealing with more controversial subjects. Instead of the influx of supernatural horror in the 40's and 50's. We could see something more akin to the slasher. With films focusing on killers or home invaders.

Consider that one side effect is that social and religious conservatives will claim that the horror films created the serial killers and violence. This was certainly the case when gangster films and film noir was introduced....