fiddyman237
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I am currently working on a TL about Austria and I was looking at F. Ferdinand's page on wikipedia and i saw this map. Wicked yes? I just thought it would help others. It helped me!
Ugh. Biggest myth on this board. FF was NOT looking for a united states of greater austria. He was an arch conservative that wanted to MAINTAIN the Dualist system, but with voter reform in Hungary. Anything else is a Sealion scenario. Don't believe everything you read on Wikipedia.I am currently working on a TL about Austria and I was looking at F. Ferdinand's page on wikipedia and i saw this map. Wicked yes? I just thought it would help others. It helped me!
Ugh. Biggest myth on this board. FF was NOT looking for a united states of greater austria. He was an arch conservative that wanted to MAINTAIN the Dualist system, but with voter reform in Hungary. Anything else is a Sealion scenario. Don't believe everything you read on Wikipedia.
Some historians even say that he wanted return into a pre-Ausgleich status ( absolutism and German/Austrian hegemony in whole Monarchy ).
yourworstnightmare said:...while other claim he wanted to create a third Slav Kingdom within the Empire. There are much disagreement about him.
Well, by the 1900s doing anything to the Empire would probably paralyze it.
Centralisation would basically upset everyone except the Germans. The Czechs, Croats, Poles etc. wanted more autonomy, not less.
they are implied in the etc.You forgot to mention the Romanians.
Frankly all seem to point at the dissolution of the A-H Empire no matter who is in charge, the reforms are decades too late, the only thing the hasburg has done was to put patch not really solve the problem. Even if FF can subdue the hungarian (not certain) all other minorities will not wait paecefull to be dictated by Vienna, and A-H is basically surrounded by nation not very friendly if not overtly hostile (except Germany of course), and a FF reign means that Italy is out of the Central powers at the next renewal, a situation that really make the Germans happy to use a little sarcasm
Conversely, Germany is likelier than Austria to part with Welschtirol (Trentino) than is Austria, and Anscluss cannot be ruled out if the Hapsburg-ruled empire collapses outright circa 1917.