Explain the AH List of Presidents or Prime Ministers

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Hey, why did this die out? I'll try to resurrect it:

Presidents of the North American Confederation:

1789-1797: John Jay (Federalist)
1797-1805: Alexander Hamilton (Federalist)
1805-1813: Aaron Burr (Democratic Republican)
1813- 1821: John Quincy Adams (Democratic Republican)
1821-1829: John Caldwell Calhoun (National Federalist)
1829-1837: Henry Clay (National Federalist)
1837-1845: George Mifflin Dallas (Democratic Republican)
1845-1853: Daniel Webster (National Federalist)
1853-1861: Lewis Cass (Democratic Republican)
1861-1869: William Henry Seward (Republican)
1869-1877: Hannibal Hamlin (Republican)
1877-1885: James Gillespie Blaine (Republican)
1885-1893: James Abram Garfield (Republican)
1893-1901: William Jennings Bryan (Liberal Democratic)
1901-1909: Robert Marion La Follete (Progressive Republican)
1909-1917: Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive Republican)
1917-1925: Hiram Johnson (Progressive Republican)
1925-1933: Charles Curtis (Progressive Republican)
1933-1941: Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Liberal Democratic)
1941-1949: Thomas Edmund Dewey (Progressive Republican)
1949-1957: Harry Truman (Liberal Democratic)
1957-1965: Nelson Rockefeller (Progressive Republican)
1965-1973: Lyndon Baines Johnson (Liberal Democratic)
1973-1981: Richard Milhous Nixon (Progressive Republican)
1981-1989: George Herbert Walker Bush (Progressive Republican)
1989-1997: Lloyd Bentsen (Liberal Democratic)
1997-2005: John McCain (Progressive Reoublican)
2005-2013: Joseph Biden (Liberal Democratic)
2013-2021: Michael Bloomberg (Progressive Republican)
 
Hey, why did this die out? I'll try to resurrect it:

Presidents of the North American Confederation:

1789-1797: John Jay (Federalist)
1797-1805: Alexander Hamilton (Federalist)
1805-1813: Aaron Burr (Democratic Republican)
1813- 1821: John Quincy Adams (Democratic Republican)
1821-1829: John Caldwell Calhoun (National Federalist)
1829-1837: Henry Clay (National Federalist)
1837-1845: George Mifflin Dallas (Democratic Republican)
1845-1853: Daniel Webster (National Federalist)
1853-1861: Lewis Cass (Democratic Republican)
1861-1869: William Henry Seward (Republican)
1869-1877: Hannibal Hamlin (Republican)
1877-1885: James Gillespie Blaine (Republican)
1885-1893: James Abram Garfield (Republican)
1893-1901: William Jennings Bryan (Liberal Democratic)
1901-1909: Robert Marion La Follete (Progressive Republican)
1909-1917: Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive Republican)
1917-1925: Hiram Johnson (Progressive Republican)
1925-1933: Charles Curtis (Progressive Republican)
1933-1941: Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Liberal Democratic)
1941-1949: Thomas Edmund Dewey (Progressive Republican)
1949-1957: Harry Truman (Liberal Democratic)
1957-1965: Nelson Rockefeller (Progressive Republican)
1965-1973: Lyndon Baines Johnson (Liberal Democratic)
1973-1981: Richard Milhous Nixon (Progressive Republican)
1981-1989: George Herbert Walker Bush (Progressive Republican)
1989-1997: Lloyd Bentsen (Liberal Democratic)
1997-2005: John McCain (Progressive Reoublican)
2005-2013: Joseph Biden (Liberal Democratic)
2013-2021: Michael Bloomberg (Progressive Republican)
With the death of George Washington only a few years after the war of independence, John Jay, the leading foreign diplomat after the late doctor Franklin, was elected.
Following him was Alexander Hamilton.

Hamilton's two terms, while financially stable, was defined by corruption and revolts. This lead to both Burr's victory and the death of the old federalist party. During the Aaron Burr presidency, the United States went to war with England over a variety of issues, namely impressment of American sailors. The War was won during John Quincy Adams's first term, leading to his victory in 1816.

After John Quincy Adams leaves office, the white house dominated by the national federalist party for 8 years.

Under president Dallas, the United States annexed Texas, the southwest, and Sonora during the Mexican American War.

Following the war was eight years of tension between the north and south, leading to civil war after the election of William Seward.

William Jennings Bryan was the first president belonging to the liberal Democratic Party.

FDR chooses not to run for third term.

Truman signed into law the civil rights act of 1953.

Nixon pulled out of Vietnam, no Watergate.

Cold war ended under HW Bush.
 
1901-1905 George Henry White (R)
1905-1913 Alfred Thayer Mahan (R)
1913-1916 Jack London (D)
1916-1921 Woodrow Wilson (D)
1921-1925 Franklin D Roosevelt (D)
1925-1932 Calvin Coolidge (R)
1932-33 Alf Landon (R)
1933-1937 John Nance Garner (D)
1937-1941 Henry Wallace (D)
1941-1945 John J Pershing (R)
 
1901-1905 George Henry White (R)
1905-1913 Alfred Thayer Mahan (R)
1913-1916 Jack London (D)
1916-1921 Woodrow Wilson (D)
1921-1925 Franklin D Roosevelt (D)
1925-1932 Calvin Coolidge (R)
1932-33 Alf Landon (R)
1933-1937 John Nance Garner (D)
1937-1941 Henry Wallace (D)
1941-1945 John J Pershing (R)

-McKinley picks White instead of Roosevelt as his VP and gets assassinated as IOTL; White steps down after four years
-Mahan wins the 1904 primaries over Roosevelt and beats Bryan in the general; wins a second term after winning (alongside the Entente Powers) an early WW1 sparked by the Morocco crisis
-Severe economic downturns in 1912 means London runs as a left-populist and defeats Roosevelt; dies as IOTL, replaced by Wilson, his VP
-Wilson wins in 1916 against Taft; is popular, but steps down in 1920 over severe health issues
-FDR wins in 1920 against Harding; reverses many of London's economic reforms, which combined with Wilson's racialist policies means the Roaring Twenties occur as IOTL; however, is successfully primaried by McAdoo, who loses to Coolidge
-Coolidge wins again in 1928 due to the strong economy, but suffers due to the Wall Street Crash occuring as IOTL, which he fails to remedy before his death due to his insistence on laissez-faire economics; John Nance Garner runs, promising a (somewhat watered down version of the OTL) New Deal, and beats Landon in a landslide
-Garner makes himself unpopular with the populist wing of the Democrats after vetoing many of their policies; is successfully primaried by Wallace, who wins and successfully campaigns on 'reviving the spirit of President London'
-Wallace greatly expands the welfare state; despite WW2 starting in 1937, Wallace steadfastedly refuses to enter the US into the fray (preferring to focus on domestic issues), and loses in a close race to Pershing in 1940, campaigning on promising to win WW2
-Pershing brings the US into WW2 after his inauguration; steps down in 1945, having done what he was elected to do
 
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1970-1979 Edward Heath (Conservative)
1979-1988 James Callaghan (Labour)
1988-1996 Matthew Parris (Conservative)
1996-2000 Tony Blair (Conservative)
2000-2009 Jack Straw (Labour)
2009-2013 David Cameron (Conservative)
2013-2017 David Milliband (Labour)
2017-0000 Boris Johnson (Conservative)
 
1970-1979 Edward Heath (Conservative)
1979-1988 James Callaghan (Labour)
1988-1996 Matthew Parris (Conservative)
1996-2000 Tony Blair (Conservative)
2000-2009 Jack Straw (Labour)
2009-2013 David Cameron (Conservative)
2013-2017 David Milliband (Labour)
2017-0000 Boris Johnson (Conservative)
First of all, Blair never reads the Trotsky biography in 1972, and is more drawn to the Conservatives. Then...
Heath is reelected in 1974 and Wilson hands over to Callaghan as a result.
Heath is then hit by the Winter of Discontent and is handed his ass by Callaghan, who sets about reforming Britain in his image
Incumbency fatigue does Labour in in 1988 after a small depression and Matthew Parris takes over. A sort-of Thatcher Lite, Parris pursues a sort of libertarian route. Only sort-of since the Conservative Bufton Tuftons put a damper on any wild ideas he might have. But with no real landslides, and incumbency fatigue looming, he hands over to his deputy Blair (Because Parris knows damn well that the 1995 Election was the last winnable for the Conservatives)
As expected, Blair is attacked as a 'Squatter in No. 10' and loses to Jack Straw. Running on a sort-of, but not really centrist agenda, he pursues a populist approach (which loses him more than he wins), leading to a coalition in 2005, and when the Liberals pull the plug in 2009, a straight up defeat.
Cameron? What can be said? He came to power at the head of a government who had promiised the world...only to see the economy crash before his eyes. Unsurprisingly, he is thrown out by...
David Miliband...who cannot 'fix' the economy either (Not fair, but that was what they saw), which brings us to the last man
Boris Johnson: Stilll being written

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1960-1968 Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1968-1972 Hubert Humphrey (D)
1972-1980 John Connally (R)
1980-1988 John Glenn (D)
1988-1996 Pete Wilson (R)
1996-2000 Joe Biden (D)
2000-2004 John McCain (R)
2004-2012 Sherrod Brown (D)
2012-???? Rick Perry (R)
 
1960-1968 Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1968-1972 Hubert Humphrey (D)
1972-1980 John Connally (R)
1980-1988 John Glenn (D)
1988-1996 Pete Wilson (R)
1996-2000 Joe Biden (D)
2000-2004 John McCain (R)
2004-2012 Sherrod Brown (D)
2012-???? Rick Perry (R)
Lyndon B. Johnson (Democratic, 1961-69): Johnson - the archetypical corrupt and domineering machine politician - seized the Democratic nomination from an Addison's-ridden Kennedy and waged a gruelling election campaign riddled with dirty tricks against the equally-shady Nixon. The '60 election was a low point in the nation's history, and few had any real hope for the Texan's time in office. Yet, once in power, Johnson made it clear that he was done compromising: healthcare, welfare, a War on Poverty, and - following his rout of Rockefeller and the Eastern Establishment in '64 - civil rights were seized upon by the Johnson Administration with an almost messianic zeal. Shady union connections and a keen sense of political manoeuvring kept the peace between business and labour, while negotiations with Khruschev kept the Cold War frosty but quiet. It wasn't all fun and games, as Cuba's anti-American rhetoric grew with each failed CIA assassination attempt on Castro and a steady stream of American "advisors" trickled into Vietnam, but these were of little concern to the average Joe and Jane Q. Public. LBJ was fiercely divisive, but what cannot be argued is that he made his mark like no other President since Roosevelt.

Hubert Humphrey (Democratic, 1969-73): Poor hapless Humphrey. Browbeaten by eight years as Johnson's VP-slash-punching bag, he seized the nomination from the radical Goldwater with an optimistic and open campaign described by one off-the-record staffer as "everything that Johnson was not". Unfortunately, this would prove more accurate than he'd planned. Humphrey was a believer in the best of humanity, a belief that was sorely tested by a wave of strikes, student protests, and racial violence in the South. Abroad, an attempted surgical strike into Cuba became a grinding stalemate, and Vietnam grew uglier and uglier. A primary challenge by a bitter John Kennedy helped ensure Humphrey's narrow loss in the general election - the perfect capstone for his four short and tragic years in office.

John Connally (Republican, 1973-81): A fading economy, social unrest, and foreign quagmire - Humphrey's blood was in the water and a hell of a lot of sharks were circling. Reagan, Romney, even Nixon were all in the running, but ultimately the nomination was seized by Connally, the dark horse to end all dark horses. Connally, a wheeler-dealer ex-Democrat, narrowly won the general election and entered office with a divided GOP and a split Congress. With such an inauspicious start, few expected much of the new administration. But John Connally was a man on a mission. Backed by his cadre of advisors (the so-called "Texas Cabal"), he set about making his mark. Wage and price controls, coupled with stimulus packages for the more... cooperative businesses, buoyed the economy, while a repressive law and order programme kept all but the most radical student protesters off the streets. Abroad, a massive troop surge finally toppled the Castro regime in '76, with Manuel Artime installed as President of the new Cuban Republic. Vietnam, meanwhile, remained at a steady boil, with neither side willing to risk open conflict. The Connally Administration remains a strange moment in political history - broadly successful yet uninspiring, conservative yet bipartisan - led by a man who served as President for eight years and yet is known largely for his post-presidential corruption trial.

John Glenn (Democratic, 1981-89): After Johnson's division, Humphrey's disaster, and Connally's... well, whatever Connally was, the American people wanted someone inspiring. Stepping in to fill that void was former fighter pilot and two-term Senator John Glenn. Easily besting Vice President Conlan with a sunny, forward-looking campaign, Glenn set his sights on pushing the boundaries of American ingenuity. Funding for science and technology was expanded, a man was finally put on the Moon in '82, and nuclear power became the environmental cause célèbre. It wasn't all silver linings - obstructionist Republicans held both houses of Congress from '84 to '86, and Health Secretary Harrison Williams resigned amidst a bribery scandal - but the Glenn Administration played a key role in the optimistic view of the "Mighty Eighties".

Pete Wilson (Republican, 1989-97): The back-to-back losses of Conlan and Laxalt had exposed the weakness of social conservatism in Glenn's America, and in '96 the nomination was seized by a new generation of Republicans, led by California Senator Pete Wilson. Popular opinion paints Wilson's administration as a continuation of Glenn's, and to some extent this was true. Both men were socially liberal, and although Wilson was further to the right on economics both men had a passion for trimming government fat. The renewed focus on innovation was continued under Wilson, although there was a clear shift towards using new technology against the increasingly belligerent Soviet Union and its proxy forces in Iran and India. Wilson's foreign policy, however, differed dramatically, as tensions were ramped up and funding for pro-American groups across Latin America and in aforementioned Iran were amped up. At the same time taxes were slashed and industries were deregulated, which, although it did give the already-strong economy a further boost, are considered by economists to be responsible for the crisis that followed ten years later.

Joe Biden (Democratic, 1997-2001): He was never going to be the nominee, until suddenly he was. He was always going to be President, until suddenly he wasn't. Such goes the tragic tale of Joe Biden. Synthesising the nostalgia of the Mighty Eighties with a return to the community spirit that had been lost amidst the rat-race of the Nineties, Biden won an unexpected but convincing victory over the scandal-ridden Schwarzenegger. He had a bold domestic policy - a public option healthcare plan, beefing up environmental protections, and a new offensive against the ongoing drug epidemic - but it was foreign affairs that would dominate (and doom) his time in the White House. To those watching at home, it seemed as if Biden had simply lost control: US-backed revolutionaries and their Gromyko-backed counterparts clashed in the Latin American "Summer of Lead", while a standoff in the Iranian Civil War brought the world closer to total annihilation than ever before. Worldwide tensions, a slowly fading economy, and (unbeknownst to the public) a potentially life-threatening aneurysm brought an end to Biden's bright future almost before it had begun.

John McCain (Republican, 2001-2005): McCain was in many ways the opposite of his predecessor. The tough-talking moderate, who had been lauded for his part in the '71 invasion of Cuba, won office on a platform of restoring American strength abroad. This he achieved, for the most part: detente with the USSR in Iran, an end to the Summer of Lead, and strong support for the González regime in Cuba (despite complaints of authoritarianism). Unfortunately for McCain, his administration would be defined by domestic affairs - specifically the Second Great Depression. In 2003, Wilson-era deregulation combined with the world's most ill-timed computer error to demolish shares in some of the nation's largest banks almost overnight. McCain, always the maverick, attempted to pass a stimulus bill, but it was shot down by a bipartisan coalition of fiscal conservatives in the Senate. McCain tried several more times, but the crisis only grew worse, and few were shocked when "the Good General" lost the 2004 election in a landslide.

Sherrod Brown (Democratic, 2005-2013): Fiscal conservatism had been discredited by the Depression, and America was primed for a revolution. Sherrod Brown brought that revolution... at least at first. An unabashed liberal, a staunch champion of organised labour, and a rare Democratic victor in increasingly-conservative Ohio, Representative Brown quickly dispatched the floundering McCain and set his sights on revitalising the country. Aided by Democratic majorities in both houses of Congress, Brown dramatically restructured the banking sector, expanded social security spending, and finally made Biden's dream of a public option healthcare system a reality. Everyone loved Brown, and with the economy finally slipping back into gear he easily won re-election. This, unfortunately, is where the wheels started to fall off. The Soviet Union, plagued by a succession of would-be strongmen, suddenly and violently disintegrated in 2010. Brown sent troops in to restore order, pissing off Chechen separatists who weren't too pleased with these pindosgiving guns to the new Georgian government. On January 18th, 2011, a group of Chechen militants hijacked an airplane and crashed it into the U.S. Bank Tower in Los Angeles. The 1/18 attack cost the lives of 1,534 American citizens, launched a lengthy "intervention" in the former Soviet Union, and put an end to Brown's "revolution".

Rick Perry (Republican, 2013-present): Rick Perry wants three things: a return to fiscal conservatism, an end to the "socialist liberal atheism" of Brown's social policies, and the complete obliteration of every one of those mass-murderers sons-of-bitches in Chechen. He's a bold and brash new presence on the political stage, but these three things won him the election, and like it or not it looks like he's here to stay...
 
William "Billy" Hughes (Labor/National Labor/Nationalist) 1915-1917✞
Joseph Cook (Nationalist) 1916-1928
Matthew Charlton (Labor) 1929✞
Ted Theodore (Labor) 1929-1930
Carl Jess (Military Junta) 1930-1939
Vernon Sturdee (Imperial Liberation Front) 1939-1941
John Latham (Unity) 1941-1953
Earle Page (Country Coalition) 1953-58
Eddie Ward (New Labor) 1958-present
 
William "Billy" Hughes (Labor/National Labor/Nationalist) 1915-1917✞
Joseph Cook (Nationalist) 1916-1928
Matthew Charlton (Labor) 1929✞
Ted Theodore (Labor) 1929-1930
Carl Jess (Military Junta) 1930-1939
Vernon Sturdee (Imperial Liberation Front) 1939-1941
John Latham (Unity) 1941-1953
Earle Page (Country Coalition) 1953-58
Eddie Ward (New Labor) 1958-present

Following the assassination of the controversial Billy Hughes, Joseph Cook became the next Prime Minister of Australia, vowing to support conscription during the first world war. However, the Central Powers managed to prevail in the end, wrestling hefty war reparations from the Entente, including the British Empire. Civil and Economic unrest would dominate Australia for years as Cook managed to hold on to his position until he lost the general election to Mathew Charlton.

For his support of unions and miners, Charlton was assassinated shortly into his term by an anti-socialist member of parliament. This was a showing sign of the instability of the dominion.
Ted Theodore found himself out of depth while dealing with the crisis, which greatly worsened with the Crash of 1929. As the continent descended into chaos, General Carl Jess took power and brutally brought order to a divided land. His government collapsed when Lieutenant General Sturdee and his army of exiles stormed Canberra and imprisoned Jess. He stepped down in 1941 to lead the Australian Army during the Pacific War of 1941-1946.

John Latham of the Unity Party would rule for over a decade as he sought to bind the broken nation back together and heal the rift between Australia and the UK. retiring in 1953, Earle Page became the next prime minister and focused mostly on agricultural reform and interior improvements until his defeat in the 1958 general election. Ward, considered by much of the establishment to be a radical leftist, pledged his support to the working class.
 
1861-1865 Abraham Lincoln (Republican/National Union) 16th
1865-1869 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) 17th
1869-1877 George H Thomas (National Union) 18th
1877-1881 Hamilton Fish (Republican) 19th
1881-1884 James Garfield (Republican) 20th
1884-1893 James Longstreet (Republican) 21st
1893-1897 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) 22nd
 
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1861-1865 Abraham Lincoln (Republican/National Union) 16th
1865-1869 Andrew Johnson (Democrat/National Union) 17th
1869-1877 James Ewell Brown Stuart (National Union) 18th
1877-1881 Hamilton Fish (Republican) 19th
1881-1884 James Garfield (Republican) 20th
1884-1893 James Longstreet (Republican) 21st
1893-1897 Grover Cleveland (Democrat) 22nd

Longstreet is easier - he supported racial equality after the war. Maybe have the Metropolitan Police decisively beat the White League in the Liberty Place battle and you lead to a more successful Reconstruction (at least in Louisiana).

Jeb Stuart would be tough, especially that close to the war, but if he manages the aftermath you might avoid the rise of the KKK and have a better reconciliation. The butterflies from that would lead to a Confederate past not being politically toxic on the national level.
 
Longstreet is easier - he supported racial equality after the war. Maybe have the Metropolitan Police decisively beat the White League in the Liberty Place battle and you lead to a more successful Reconstruction (at least in Louisiana).

Jeb Stuart would be tough, especially that close to the war, but if he manages the aftermath you might avoid the rise of the KKK and have a better reconciliation. The butterflies from that would lead to a Confederate past not being politically toxic on the national level.
The idea I had come up with was that Virginia stays with the Union and, after Lee refuses to run for office, Stuart instead runs for office.
 
Longstreet is easier - he supported racial equality after the war. Maybe have the Metropolitan Police decisively beat the White League in the Liberty Place battle and you lead to a more successful Reconstruction (at least in Louisiana).

Jeb Stuart would be tough, especially that close to the war, but if he manages the aftermath you might avoid the rise of the KKK and have a better reconciliation. The butterflies from that would lead to a Confederate past not being politically toxic on the national level.
So, will you be posting your own list of alt presidents?
 
The idea I had come up with was that Virginia stays with the Union and, after Lee refuses to run for office, Stuart instead runs for office.

He's only 35 though in 1868....

I mean, its possible considering Breckenridge in 1856/1860 and even Bryan later on in 1896. But unless Stuart is this amazing standout figure I doubt they would let him in the Presidency, especially for 2 terms.

Should try George H Thomas instead.
 
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