Expanded Greek Alphabet

So what would it take for the Greek Alphabet to be used more widely?
Eg for Russian, Arabic, Turkic etc
We can assume additional characters as needed.
 
So what would it take for the Greek Alphabet to be used more widely?
Eg for Russian, Arabic, Turkic etc
We can assume additional characters as needed.

Either the Greeks absolutely trashed the Arabs on their way out or the Arabs were so successful that they took over the entire Eastern Empire in one big gulp, along with everything Greek.
 
So what would it take for the Greek Alphabet to be used more widely?
Eg for Russian, Arabic, Turkic etc

For Russian - there's already the Cyrillic script, which despite the name is not the work of SS. Cyril and Methodius but most likely a student of theirs (the alphabet the two saints used was most likely Glagolithic). The Cyrillic script is basically an expanded version of the medieval Greek alphabet as adapted originally to Proto-Slavic (and is best reflected in Old Church Slavonic). From three, its use spread to South Slavic languages (mainly those spoken under what was originally the Ottoman Empire) and East Slavic languages. Afterwards, the Soviet Union adapted it to lots of non-Slavic languages. So that is covered.

For Arabic - well, there's always the possibility of Coptic Christianity being more prominent, so in that case the Coptic alphabet (which is the Greek alphabet plus additional letters) could be used.
 
Maybe the Gothic aphabet - who was I believe a modified Greek one for the Goths - could become popular in some parts of Europe, maybe a surviving eastern germanic culture(s)...
 
Maybe the Gothic aphabet - who was I believe a modified Greek one for the Goths - could become popular in some parts of Europe, maybe a surviving eastern germanic culture(s)...

It was essentially a ceremonial script since the Vth at best. For everyday as well than formal, the Latin script was far far more present.

It was the subject of a recent thread.

The most obvious PoD would be a Roman-Screw. Should Rome never manages to really go outside Italy, maybe with a Punic victory, Greek script would have a quite better chance.
Rome, Carthage were quite hellenized already, and would probably continue to do so more intensivlty, maybe not to the point of adopting a Greek script for their languages but not posing a cultural threat to "alphabetizing" of non-scripted languages.

You may see more occurence as OTL Gaul adoption of Greek script to write Gaulish, depending of Greek or Hellenized trade presence in Europe.

I would tend to think, however, that without a political hegemony akin to Rome's; Greek wouldn't have a same impact. The fact Roman Empire, a sole political and economical continuum, used Latin as an administrative language really helped its diffusion.

TTL may see the rize of native script as Futhark, but more influenced by Greek Script rather than Latin. Eventually, not a dominance of Greek Script per se, but a more important influence.
 
It was essentially a ceremonial script since the Vth at best. For everyday as well than formal, the Latin script was far far more present.

It was the subject of a recent thread.

The most obvious PoD would be a Roman-Screw. Should Rome never manages to really go outside Italy, maybe with a Punic victory, Greek script would have a quite better chance.
Rome, Carthage were quite hellenized already, and would probably continue to do so more intensivlty, maybe not to the point of adopting a Greek script for their languages but not posing a cultural threat to "alphabetizing" of non-scripted languages.

You may see more occurence as OTL Gaul adoption of Greek script to write Gaulish, depending of Greek or Hellenized trade presence in Europe.

I would tend to think, however, that without a political hegemony akin to Rome's; Greek wouldn't have a same impact. The fact Roman Empire, a sole political and economical continuum, used Latin as an administrative language really helped its diffusion.

TTL may see the rize of native script as Futhark, but more influenced by Greek Script rather than Latin. Eventually, not a dominance of Greek Script per se, but a more important influence.

I wonder, what would a Greco-Phoenician alphabet/language look like?
 
For Russian - there's already the Cyrillic script, which despite the name is not the work of SS. Cyril and Methodius but most likely a student of theirs (the alphabet the two saints used was most likely Glagolithic). The Cyrillic script is basically an expanded version of the medieval Greek alphabet as adapted originally to Proto-Slavic (and is best reflected in Old Church Slavonic). From three, its use spread to South Slavic languages (mainly those spoken under what was originally the Ottoman Empire) and East Slavic languages. Afterwards, the Soviet Union adapted it to lots of non-Slavic languages. So that is covered.

For Arabic - well, there's always the possibility of Coptic Christianity being more prominent, so in that case the Coptic alphabet (which is the Greek alphabet plus additional letters) could be used.

From what I'm aware Cyrilllic is derived from the Greek with influence of Glagolitic.
So if we remove Glagolitic and have Greek Script continued and recognisable as Greek Script could we see it used for Slavic.

The most obvious PoD would be a Roman-Screw. Should Rome never manages to really go outside Italy, maybe with a Punic victory, Greek script would have a quite better chance.
Rome, Carthage were quite hellenized already, and would probably continue to do so more intensivlty, maybe not to the point of adopting a Greek script for their languages but not posing a cultural threat to "alphabetizing" of non-scripted languages.

You may see more occurence as OTL Gaul adoption of Greek script to write Gaulish, depending of Greek or Hellenized trade presence in Europe.

I would tend to think, however, that without a political hegemony akin to Rome's; Greek wouldn't have a same impact. The fact Roman Empire, a sole political and economical continuum, used Latin as an administrative language really helped its diffusion.

Perhaps not a screw but a reduction? Gaul isn't taken and the later leaders of Rome concentrate more on Egypt and the East? So a more eastern Roman Empire with Greek (dialects) used more and with it becoming the language of liturgy (I'm assuming some sort of Christianity here)?

TTL may see the rize of native script as Futhark, but more influenced by Greek Script rather than Latin. Eventually, not a dominance of Greek Script per se, but a more important influence.

Yes I can see that there'd be some form of Standard Futhark Script coming into to play.

I wonder, what would a Greco-Phoenician alphabet/language look like?

Similar to Greco-Iberian or even closer to Greek Script, maybe?

Well the Phoenician alphabet is what the Greek one is based on so perhaps near full adoption with extra letters.

Basically I'm going for an extended Greek Script
 
Perhaps not a screw but a reduction? Gaul isn't taken and the later leaders of Rome concentrate more on Egypt and the East? So a more eastern Roman Empire with Greek (dialects) used more and with it becoming the language of liturgy (I'm assuming some sort of Christianity here)?
It wouldn't do it : a Roman domination, critically in the form of an hegemonic empire, would promote Latin script even without conquest by simple political, economical and cultura influence.
 
It wouldn't do it : a Roman domination, critically in the form of an hegemonic empire, would promote Latin script even without conquest by simple political, economical and cultura influence.

But even OTL Latin Script was restricted to North, West, and Central Europe despite this promotion. The parts of the world under the eastern half of the Roman Empire tended to use Greek until Arab domination.
I'm asking to extend Greek Script not fully replace Latin Script
 
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