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(sees grey seat beside the rump PC caucus) Hi. John Nunziata! Also fascinating to see Liberal Ralph Klein.
Does Lucien Bouchard still lose his leg in 1994?
Does Lucien Bouchard still lose his leg in 1994?
Good spot! I got a kick out of placing him as a far away as possible from the Liberal caucus in the diagram. The reason why he left the party ahead of schedule was mostly due to Martin's leadership and the tensions with the Rat Pack.(sees grey seat beside the rump PC caucus) Hi. John Nunziata! Also fascinating to see Liberal Ralph Klein.
Does Lucien Bouchard still lose his leg in 1994?
How'd you make the Canada popular vote map like the one on Wikipedia?Jean Chrétien, like his fellow prime ministers who ruled Canada between the 1980s and 1990s, suffered from an increasingly indebted federal government and socio-cultural clashes between French-speaking Quebec and the English-speaking West, which suffered from ‘Western alienation’. Even Chrétien’s accent couldn’t escape this debate. French speakers would attack Chrétien for mangling the French language through (often clumsy) Anglicisation whilst English-speaking comedians would, paradoxically, make fun of his thick French accent.
Chrétien’s politics, now endorsed with an elected term of its own, could be boiled down to fervent federalism and small-town populism. Such a governing style explains the lack of progress made with both constitutional reform and the ‘wait-and-see’ approach on whether to enter negotiations for a free trade deal with the US. This approach was further exacerbated by Chrétien’s closest political advisors, Michel Fournier, his chief of staff and Eddie Goldenberg, his principal secretary. Having ill-conceived mandates meant the men would often clash, which led to paralysis both in the Prime Minister's Office (PMO) and in long-term government strategy.
This belt-buckling and pragmatic government was a far cry from the campaign which won Chrétien the party leadership in 1984. It also did little to calm tensions within his party. John Turner became a thorn in Chrétien's side, having been elected as an MP in 1984. Pierre Trudeau also remained in the public eye, continually using his bully pulpit to offer unpopular advice to his immediate successor and protégé.
Chrétien’s lack of a majority also meant that he would have to work closely with the NDP, who believed themselves to be only an election or two away from government. So, for political reasons, the NDP would stymie Chrétien's attempts to institute a national childcare program. Chrétien, a tried-and-tested political streetfighter and supremely self-confident, was minded to call a snap election and did, for September 1987, rather than see his government fall to a motion of no confidence.
Joe Clark’s unceremonious resignation saw the (Progressive) Conservatives enter a period of reflection which saw Newfoundland and Labrador premier John Crosbie win the leadership against Michael Wilson. A populist, Crosbie assembled a coalition of social liberals on the Eastern seaboard, fiscal conservatives in Ontario and conservatives in the East. His folksy and populist charm however had little impact in Quebec, who regarded the English-speaking Crosbie as unsympathetic to their demands for either sovereignty or independence.
Whilst the election always seemed to favour the PCs, which ran heavily on themes of change and renewal, it was in the English-speaking debate (the French debate saw Jean Charest, who was one of only 4 PC’s elected in Quebec in 1984, stand in for Crosbie), which saw the PC victory confirmed. Crosbie promised that a PC government would not be afraid to tackle the big issues of the day such as free trade and would “be ambitious, be bolder and be better”. By finding and tapping into the root of public discontent with the Liberals, Crosbie won the election.
In a landslide, voters rewarded Crosbie with the first secure Conservative majority government since 1962. Liberals lost once-safe seats in both Ontario and along the Atlantic Seaboard, to the Conservatives. Even in Quebec, the Conservatives overperformed mostly thanks to the forceful campaigning of Charest and because of splits in the left-wing vote between the Liberals and NDP (with the NDP beginning to enjoy the support of sovereigntists and socialists in Quebec).
Crosbie, now PM and a noted advocate of free trade, almost immediately began negotiations towards an North American Free Trade Zone (NAFTZ).
Yeah that update is one of my favourite parts of the TL for me, both because it was interesting to research it and because it seems so alien when compared to British and European politics.Damn Irish politics seem like even more of a wild clusterfuck beneath the placid scene than OTL!
I do really like the sense you’re giving of a more wild Nineties than what we saw IOTL. Keep up the great work.
Not sure if I just missed it but how did the 1994 US midterms go?
I downloaded the image via Inkscape and used it to edit the seat totals and names. The province colours are easily able to be edited as they are already crafted and designed but I found the bars a bit harder to work with, so I just created my own using the tools on Inkscape. In essence, for them I traced over the bars and graphs with my own stuff, so it would form an outline and then just add the bars and seat totals/party names after.How'd you make the Canada popular vote map like the one on Wikipedia?
GotchaI downloaded the image via Inkscape and used it to edit the seat totals and names. The province colours are easily able to be edited as they are already crafted and designed but I found the bars a bit harder to work with, so I just created my own using the tools on Inkscape. In essence, for them I traced over the bars and graphs with my own stuff, so it would form an outline and then just add the bars and seat totals/party names after.
I hope that makes sense?
Ah nice! Looking forward to more! This TL is inspiring me to get off my ass and get more written of my Bicentennial Man TL hahaYeah that update is one of my favourite parts of the TL for me, both because it was interesting to research it and because it seems so alien when compared to British and European politics.
I'm putting the finishing touches on the next update, which completely follows the wild Nineties theme I've got going.
Ah yeah, I was gonna cover that a bit more with the US 1996 election but honestly its pretty unremarkable. Republicans keep hold of the House (they lose a few seats) and keep hold of the Senate (they actually increase their seats due to retiring Southern Democrats).
Bob Michel retires as Speaker and Dick Armey replaces him, with Hastert (unfortunately) becoming House Majority Leader.
I downloaded the image via Inkscape and used it to edit the seat totals and names. The province colours are easily able to be edited as they are already crafted and designed but I found the bars a bit harder to work with, so I just created my own using the tools on Inkscape. In essence, for them I traced over the bars and graphs with my own stuff, so it would form an outline and then just add the bars and seat totals/party names after.
I hope that makes sense?
Nice stuff, shame about Dick but oh well. Amusingly I did use Mary Banotti once in a list as a Fine Gael President because she feels like she would present a sea change/Social Liberal image in comparison to the various other candidates.A.N. This update is dedicated to @Time Enough who wanted Irish politics, but probably not like th
I’ve been having a look at your TL and it looks really good!Ah nice! Looking forward to more! This TL is inspiring me to get off my ass and get more written of my Bicentennial Man TL haha
Thanks!Amusingly I did use Mary Banotti once in a list as a Fine Gael President because she feels like she would present a sea change/Social Liberal image in comparison to the various other candidates.
I can’t promise that I’m afraid. My knowledge of Turkish politics is very limited and it would take a lot to try and figure something out for it.Can we see what will happen in Turkey too?
As much I don’t like saying it’s good that someone’s died no matter who and what they did, Andrew is that silver living you talk about.Well, Prince Andrew copped it, so every cloud has a silver lining.
The star power of the film would’ve definitely caused a fair amount of attention…Not sure about Charles Dance and Christopher Lee in a Star Wars movie though, the sheer amount of raw undiluted awesome would probably make most cinema goers' heads explode.
Glad you’re enjoying!I’ve been having a look at your TL and it looks really good!
I’m a sucker for both Ford ‘76 (more because it means a Democrat wins in ‘80 than because I like Ford, even if Betty is OP) and a Callaghan ‘78 victory followed by Healey premiership.
Thanks!
Mary Banotti as an Robinson-analogue was too good to pass up and it complemented the “Fine Gael doing better than OTL” trend I tried to show with Ireland.
Of course them doing better means Labour do worse…
I did see that in your test thread after I already made the damn update and realised that damn, so much for it being original. Great minds think alike I guess?
I’m sure I’ve got another Ireland update in me, so it might be a getting a bit better for Labour next time.
I can’t promise that I’m afraid. My knowledge of Turkish politics is very limited and it would take a lot to try and figure something out for it.
As much I don’t like saying it’s good that someone’s died no matter who and what they did, Andrew is that silver living you talk about.
The star power of the film would’ve definitely caused a fair amount of attention…
I’m surprised there’s not as much love for Gillian Anderson as Mara Jade actually. She’s probably my personal favourite fan cast for the film, just about beating Dance for my favourite cast.
I could help you with it. But, first, I need to think what could I change in Turkish politics. After all, 1990s were era of neoliberal policies all around major parties of Turkey.I can’t promise that I’m afraid. My knowledge of Turkish politics is very limited and it would take a lot to try and figure something out for it.
If you want to PM me with some ideas you're more than welcome!I could help you with it. But, first, I need to think what could I change in Turkish politics. After all, 1990s were era of neoliberal policies all around major parties of Turkey.