Everything About History 1#: What If Napoleon Won The Battle Of Waterloo

I'm going to point out that you need a credible point of departure. I'm also going to add that we seem to be the only people keeping this thread going at the moment and then depart quietly.
This thread should be kept alive because we are helping the OP get ideas for a scenario, not repeating that my scenario outline is implausible. Because of that kind of thinking this thread is almost forgotten because no user was previously interested in responding to the OP.
 
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I don't think you are particularly understanding the tactical situation in the 100 days. The cavalry force sent to fight Blucher was a screening force. Meant to hold back Blucher and nothing else. If that is kept, then the same scenario as otl will play out. If Napoleon wants to defeat Blucher and isolate him, and his army, then a much much stronger force will be needed, one which would deplete his main army, and make it capable of being broken by Wellington, which almost happened otl, even when Napoleon didn't send more than a small amount of troops with Grouchy. That would place Wellington in place to outflank the French forces in between the Anglo-Dutch and the Prussian armies, which would heap a even greater defeat than otl. Or finally Napoleon can also focus every thing he has on Wellington and pretty much make himself free to be flanked by Blucher's army and Below and Yorck's corps.
Make your contribution and propose your solution, we could be in an infinite loop regarding implausibility.
Marche Consulaire is a superb timeline, and slightly on the implausible side of things, but is executed perfectly, however it also changes the entire troop movements and positions, the diplomatic situation as well as the political situation to change things, which by the way almost happened otl, so it isn't at all farfetched. And the author has provided concrete reasons for how and why it happens. You haven't.
You should check out the comments from Belisarius and David Oudinot. They explain perfectly why the bases of the Marche Consulaire do not make sense. It is a good TL executed well, but its bases are not very hard.
 
That's fine. I would recommend reading Wellington at Waterloo by Jac Weller, The Longest Afternoon: The 400 Men Who Decided the Battle of Waterloo, Waterloo: The Aftermath, 1815, the Waterloo Campaign : the German Victory: From Waterloo to the Fall of Napoleon Peter Hofschröer, and Grouchy's Waterloo: The Battles of Ligny and Wavre if you want a more clear idea of the situation. The moment Napoleon sets out for the 100 days the odds are against him by not a mile, a whole continent by all rights. However with a suitable PoD(s) right after Napoleon retaking power you could change things around to make things go how you want them to in a logical manner.
Thanks, I will look into that.
 
For example, Marche Consulaire itself. OTL in 1807, Napoleon said that he would do anything to prevent war between himself and Russia again. Making him stick by that promise isn't all that hard to do when Napoleon's (most of the time) honorable and honest psychology is taken into account.
At least some modern authors are arguing that Napoleon did not want war with Russia starting from the Second Coalition. He went into rather unusual length to patch relations with Paul: not just released the Russian POWs unconditionally but provided them with new uniforms (as comparing to the Brits who after the failed Holland expeditions kept the allied Russian troops starving and without a proper shelter). According to that point of view the whole thing had been broken by Alexander who was known for his pro-British sympathies. Actually, there was no valid reason for Russia to be a part of the 3rd and 4th coalitions: Napoleon’s actions at that time did not infringe on any Russian interests. So all these wars had been pretty much “subjective” on Russian side.

However, everything did change in 1807 making the lasting peace pretty much impossible without serious reverses of Napoleon’s political course which finally started impacting the Russian interests:

1. The CS, while arguably being beneficial for the development of the Russian manufacturing (mostly in the hands of a merchant class) was hurting the Russian nobility because Britain was a major consumer of the produce of their estates. Taking into an account the fate of his father (to which he contributed), Alexander knew the personal dangers involved. So his reaction was Tariff of 1810 which not just made a mockery of the CS but was a direct slap on Napoleon’s face. While the secret violations of the CS by Holland and the German states could be overlooked, this act could not be ignored without a danger to the whole system.

2. The Duchy of Warsaw was a ticking time bomb taking into an account the Polish lands held by Russia after the partitions. Probably this part of a crisis could be temporarily defused if the Duchy remained relatively demilitarized but on Nappy’s orders Davout kept building up the Duchy’s army up to the numbers which prompted Russian concentration on their side of a border (as I understand by the standards of the time the Duchy’s army was somewhat out of a proportion with the resources of a very poor country). I suspect that even without Duchy’s military buildup Alexander would still consider it a potential danger capable of spreading the “wrong ideas” among the Russian Poles. Anyway, Russian concentration of the forces, prompted Napoleon to increase the French military presence in Prussia, which prompted further Russian concentration, etc. To be fair, even before this escalation Russia launched (starting approximately from 1810) a major military reform to bring its army in line with the “modern” requirements in the terms of size and organization. Which gives some authors a reason to claim that Alexander was looking for an aggressive war with Napoleon well before 1812. Not sure if this claim is valid but he did issue an ultimatum demanding withdrawal of the French troops beyond the Oder.

There were some relatively minor actions that Napoleon could avoid but which added to escalation of the tensions: annexation of Oldenburg was the most personally offensive to Alexander.
 
Is there is a possibility for Napoleon II to come to power after a Napoleonic victory at Waterloo? Say during the July revolution or during an election just like Napoleon III? Or would the Great Powers prevent that? Maybe Napoleon II would not come to power immediately after his father, but on a later date?
 
Is there is a possibility for Napoleon II to come to power after a Napoleonic victory at Waterloo? Say during the July revolution or during an election just like Napoleon III? Or would the Great Powers prevent that? Maybe Napoleon II would not come to power immediately after his father, but on a later date?
If he hadn't died early (that would a relatively minor PoD - he takes slightly better care of himself, never gets pneumonia and then never succumbs to TB) then perhaps he might have been able to return to France. The problem is that the Austrians didn't even want him in Italy (too close to France) as they were afraid that he might get ideas about the French Throne. If he lived to 1848 then who knows what might have happened in the overall chaos?
 
If he hadn't died early (that would a relatively minor PoD - he takes slightly better care of himself, never gets pneumonia and then never succumbs to TB) then perhaps he might have been able to return to France. The problem is that the Austrians didn't even want him in Italy (too close to France) as they were afraid that he might get ideas about the French Throne. If he lived to 1848 then who knows what might have happened in the overall chaos?
A Napoleonic escape during revolution year 1848 sounds interesting ...🤔
 
Is there is a possibility for Napoleon II to come to power after a Napoleonic victory at Waterloo? Say during the July revolution or during an election just like Napoleon III? Or would the Great Powers prevent that? Maybe Napoleon II would not come to power immediately after his father, but on a later date?
How curious! A few days ago I created a thread talking about that: https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-july-napoleonic-monarchy.509325/

It is an idea in process, but we can help each other.
 
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