Europe without Nazism

I wouldn't see the nazis getting into power.
Not because Hitler was so special but just butterflies, the likelyhood of the nazis developing the way they did was very small and with even the slightest change I wouldn't see the same route being followed.
 
@Hapsburg: The Habsburgs lost too, after all. However, prince Rupprecht von Wittelsbach was quite popular. Still I'd say that the monarchists *in general* would prefer the Hohenzollern. There were many people around who hated them for being incompetent, but those people generally weren't monarchists.

Max

I suspect your right especially since the significant number of people who rejected the idea of Germany having actually lost WWI [as opposed to being stabbed in the back by various scapegoats] will look on any other monarch as accepting the idea of a German defeat and hence object to it.

On the other hand there are a couple of things going for an Hapsburg Germany. It would probably be seen as less militaristic and threatening than a Hohenzollern restoration. Also it gives an angle for getting union with Austria, as it would seem very odd having an Hapsburg on the throne of Germany without including Austria in the state.

Steve
 
You ever read Stephen Fry's "Making History" ? I thought that a very interesting take on a no Hitler idea, that someone else rises to fill the vacuum and his place at the head of the Nazi's. I certainly don't think its impossible that would have happened - after all the German army had to choose SOMEONE to go watch the NSDAP meetings, so this other someone MIGHT have done something similar to Hitler...

Grey Wolf
Gregor Strassor was a rival of Hitler in the NSDAP and one of his major supporters was Joseph Goebbells so it is perfectly plausable that he and not Hitlewr would have been leader of the NAZI party
 
In a PoD after 1919 I can't see Germany going Communist without a long and exhausting war or more-or-less total economic collapse (and even during hyper-inflation in 1923 there was never any serious risk Weimar would be overthrown by the Reds). As always too many people have too much to lose from a far left wing regime than they do from a far right wing regime. Especially in a relatively industralised and advanced economy with a large middle class such as Germany.

Even if the Communists somehow got into a position where they could realistically take power democratically (and they never got more than 17% of the vote in any Weimar election), they still have to get through the paramilitaries of all the other political parties who were adamantly opposed to a Communist government, not to mention the Reichswehr.
 
No nazi takeover mean that Germany will become more a classic authoritarian/populist regime, probably a military junta. Rearming will continue but doubtfoul at the crippling pacing of the Hitler's one; whoever will be in charge will fight against the Versaille's terms and will try to get back more territories possible short of war (at least for now).
Benny will be always the same, big word but in the end a prudent one, and if he will invade an european country it will be Yugoslavia (Greece is too tight with UK and Benny doesn't need to demostrate anything to anyone).
With Germany determinated to resolve the 'injustice' of Versailles and Uncle Joe and Benny their oppurtunistic self things can still be very hot in east europe and bring if not a general war at least a new balkan war.
 
Before WWII, there was a sizable Jewish community in Eastern Europe. Back when Poland-Lithuania was around, it was the only country they could find refuge in (well, the Netherlands too). In the 1940s, that community was destroyed. Either dead, or the survivors headed to Israel. Anyway, without the Nazis, that community might still make up a good chunk of Poland. I've seen a few WI? about no Nazis, but those I've seen haven't addressed this issue.
 
No WWII, the USSR may last into the 21st Century. Israel will never exist in any fashion as per OTL, and if something like it does exist it will be treated as a terrorist state of extremists who did not accept the "system" of the British Empire. Without the slaughter of all those anti-Zionist Jews and the survival of millions of Jews who died IOTL the overall pattern of European states will also be very different from OTL. De-colonization's still going to happen regardless, however, as will a variant of the Arab Revolt.
 

elkarlo

Banned
Without Hitler i would consider a communist Germany more likely than a different right wing one. But Weimar might have survived, too.

I think either communist, or some or some sort of Italian inspired German fascism.
 
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