Europe house of representatives project

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  1. Analytical Engine Monarchist Collectivist Federalist

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    Maybe start with the individual republics of the Russian Federation.

    How much of Russia are you going to do? All of it?
     
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  2. TimTurner Cartoon Phanatic

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    yep, all of it.
    My main issue was, how to depict it on the map (district drawing, eh, I know exactly how I'll do that)? I was thinking, now, as a makeshift solution, do European Russia as I did Turkey, while giving Asian Russia its own section elsewhere.
     
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  3. Analytical Engine Monarchist Collectivist Federalist

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    Inset maps? Have more than one map?
     
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    I was thinking a small map on the side somewhere that's big enough to cover Asian Russia.
     
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    the North Caucasion Federal District has 9 seats.
    Kizlyar: northern Dagestan
    Derbent: southern Dagestan
    Makhachkala: Makhachkala and some neighboring coastal areas
    Grozny: Chechnya
    Ingushetia-Alania: Ingushetia, North Ossetia-Alania
    Nalchik: Kabardino-Balkar, Karachay-Cherkess
    Stavropol: the city of Stavropol and some nearby areas
    Pyatigorsk: the city of Pyatigorsk and some nearby areas
    Blagodarny: the rest of Stavropol Krai
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_districts_of_Russia
    Southern Federal District (less Crimea) has 13 seats.
    Astrakhan: Astrakhan
    Volgograd: city of Volgograd
    Kamyshin: northern Volgograd Oblast
    Kalmykia-Gorkovskiy: the rest of Volgograd Oblast and all of Kalmykia
    Rostov-on-Don: the city of Rostov-on-Don
    Taganrog: the area around Rostov-on-Don
    Millerovo: northern Rostov Oblast
    Volgodonsk: southern Rostov Oblast
    Krasnodar: the city of Krasnodar
    Sochi-Adygea: the area around Sochi, some neighboring areas, and Adygea
    Armavir: eastern Krasnodar Krai
    Timashevsk: northern Krasnodar Krai
    Novorossiysk: southwestern Krasnodar Krai
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_divisions_of_Moscow
    Central Federal District has 38 seats.
    Belgorod: the area around Belgorod city
    Stary Oskol: the rest of Belgorod oblast
    Voronech: the area around Voronech city
    Pavlovsk: the rest of Voronech oblast
    Kursk: Kursk
    Tambov: Tambov
    Lipetsk: Lipetsk
    Oryol: Oryol
    Bryansk: Bryansk
    Ryazan: Ryazan
    Tula: Tula
    Novomoskovsk: rest of Tula oblast
    Kaluga: Kaluga
    Smolensk: Smolensk
    Kostroma: Kostroma
    Ivanovo: Ivanovo
    Yaroslavl: Yaroslavl
    Tver: Tver city and some neighboring areas
    Rzhev: the rest of Tver oblast
    Vladimir: Vladimir city and some neighboring areas
    Murom: the rest of Vladimir oblast
    Lyuberetsky: an area directly east of Moscow
    Kolomna: southeastern Moscow Oblast
    Serpukhov: an area just south of Moscow
    Ramensky: a seat sandwiched between the Serpukhov and Lyuberetsky constituencies
    Pushkinsky: an area directly north of Moscow
    Odintsovsky Severny: an area directly north-west-west of Moscow
    Odintsovsky Yuzhny: an area directly west of Moscow
    Moscow Tsentralnaya: the Central okrug
    Moscow Severo-Zapadnaya: NW okrug
    Moscow Severnaya: N okrug
    Moscow Severo-Vostochnaya: NE okrug
    Moscow Yugo-Vostochnaya: SE okrug
    Moscow Blizhny Yug: northern parts of S okrug
    Moscow Zapadnaya: W okrug
    Moscow Dalny Jug: southern parts of S okrug
    Moscow Yugo-Zapadnaya: SW okrug, plus the rest of the city
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwestern_Federal_District
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_divisions_of_Saint_Petersburg
    NW Federal district (less Kaliningrad Oblast) has 14 seats.
    Each federal subject has at least one seat to itself, with the sole exception being Nenets (which is grouped with Arkhangelsk). Each constituency mostly or completely counterminous with a subject (in this case, 7 of them, 8 if you count Kaliningrad), is named for said federal subject.
    The oblast of Leningrad is divided into 2 seats. Neva Yuga takes in the SE of the oblast and Neva Sever covers the rest of it.

    St. Petersburg is divided into 5 seats.
    Sankt-Petersburg Yuzhny: Pushkinsky, Kolpinsky, Nevsky
    Sankt-Petersburg Zapadny: Petrodvortsovy, Krasnoselsky, Moskovsky
    Sankt-Petersburg Tsentralny: Kirovsky, Admiralteysky, Vasileostrovsky
    Sankt-Petersburg Severny: Kurortny, Primorsky, Petrogradsky, Tsentralny
    Sankt-Petersburg Vostochny: the rest of Saint Petersburg
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_Federal_District
    The Volga Federal District has 31 seats.

    Saratov: the city of Saratov
    Engels: the portion of the Saratov oblast east of the Volga
    Balashov: the portion of the Saratov oblast west of the Volga
    Penza: the city of Penza and some neighboring areas
    Kuznetsk: the rest of Penza oblast
    Saransk: Mordova
    Ulyanovsk: Ulyanovsk
    Samara: the city of Samara
    Tolyatti: the western part of Samara oblast
    Sukhodol: the rest of Samara oblast
    Nizhny Novgorod: the city of Nizhny Novgorod
    Dzerzhinsk: the SW of Nizhny Novgorod oblast
    Kstovo: the rest of Nizhny Novgorod oblast
    Chuvash: Chuvash
    Yoshkar-Ola: Mari El and a portion of Kirov oblast
    Kirov: the city of Kirov and most of Kirov oblast
    Orenburg: the city of Orenburg and some neighboring areas
    Ural Yuzhny: the rest of Orenburg oblast
    Ufa: the city of Ufa
    Tuymazy: northern Bashkortostan
    Sterlitimak: central Bashkortostan
    Kumertau: southern Bashkortostan
    Kazan Severnaya: northern Kazan; lots of rural territory in northern Tatarstan
    Kazan Yuzhnaya: southern Kazan; lots of rural territory in southern Tatarstan
    Naberezhnye Chelny: northwestern Tatarstan
    Leninogorsk: the rest of Tatarstan
    Izhevsk: the city of Izhesk and some other territory
    Votkinsk: the rest of the Udmurt Republic
    Perm: the city of Perm
    Kungur: everything south of Perm
    Berezniki: everything north of Perm
     
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    108 seats in European Russia. (106 if you exclude Crimea)
     
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    Hi, I noticed your districts' names were a bit incorrect in Russian, but while trying to rewrite them I realised I need you to clarify a few naming things

    Are you using Russian transliterated names (Moskva, Sankt-Peterburg, Rostov-na-Donu) or English names (Moscow, Saint Petersburg, Rostov-on-Don)? Looks like a mix between the two in SPb.

    When you use cardinal directions, are you looking for, for example, "Moscow - the West", "Western Moscow" or "Moscow, the Western district"? The translation may vary depending on this.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ural_Federal_District
    There are 12 seats in Ural Federal District.
    Kurgan: Kurgan
    Noyabrsk: Yamalo-Nenets, parts of Khanty-Mansi
    Tyumen: the city of Tyumen and some other territory
    Ishim: eastern Tyumen oblast
    Yalutorovsk: the rest of Tyumen oblast
    Yekaterinburg Sever: northern part of Yekaterinburg, some rural territory nearby
    Yekaterinburg Yugo: southern part of Yekaterinburg, some rural territory nearby
    Kamensk-Uralsky: eastern Sverdlovsk oblast
    Nizhny Tagil: western Sverdlovsk oblast
    Chelyabinsk Severny: northern part of Chelyabinsk, some rural territory nearby
    Chelyabinsk Yuzhny: southern part of Chelyabinsk, some rural territory nearby
    Miass: northwestern Chelyabinsk oblast
    Magnitogorsk: southwestern Chelyabinsk oblast

    I am not really uniform in this. I use English names more but I use some Russian transliterated names to infuse some kind of Russian flavor to balance that out a bit.
     
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    What about the cardinal directions then?
     
  15. TimTurner Cartoon Phanatic

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    I don't have a particular Russian translation in mind. I don't know Russian well enough for that.
    My formula in general has generally been, not just with Russia but also other countries, has been [City name] then the term for [north/northern/insert cardinal direction here] or whatever. I figure the Russian name for the constituencies can follow their own rules.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberian_Federal_District
    Siberian Federal District has 19 seats.
    Tomsk: Tomsk
    Omsk: most of the city of Omsk
    Kormilovka: the rest of Omsk oblast
    Novosibirisk Severny: northern part of Novosibirisk, some rural territory nearby
    Novosibirisk Yuzhny: southern part of Novosibirisk, some rural territory nearby
    Kuybyshev: the rest of Novosibirisk oblast
    Barnaul: the city of Barnaul and some neighboring areas
    Rubtsovsk: the rest of Altai Krai
    Altai-Khakkia: Tuva, Altai, Khakkia
    Kemerovo: the area around the city of Kemerovo
    Yurga: northern Kemerovo oblast
    Novokuznetsk: southern Kemerovo oblast
    Krasnoyarsk: the city of Krasnoyarsk
    Musinisk: southern Krasnoyarsk Krai
    Lesosibirsk: northern Krasnoyarsk Krai
    Irkutsk: the city of Irkutsk and neighboring areas
    Bratsk: the rest of Irkutsk oblast
    Buryatia: Buryatia
    Chita: Zabaykalsky Krai
     
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  17. AcipenserSturio (also known as Atlantic Sturgeon)

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    Ok then. Here are all the fixed districts names.

    Odintsovsky Severny: an area directly north-west-west of Moscow
    Odintsovsky Yuzhny: an area directly west of Moscow
    Moscow Tsentralnaya: the Central okrug
    Moscow Severo-Zapadnaya: NW okrug
    Moscow Severnaya: N okrug
    Moscow Severo-Vostochnaya: NE okrug
    Moscow Yugo-Vostochnaya: SE okrug

    I don't really know what Bolshe Yuga was supposed to be. It translates as "Moscow is bigger than the South". I'll just put "Moscow further south" instead, and replace Moscow southern with "Moscow closer south" for consistency.
    Moscow Blizhny Yug: northern parts of S okrug
    Moscow Zapadnaya: W okrug
    Moscow Dalny Jug: southern parts of S okrug
    Moscow Yugo-Zapadnaya: SW okrug, plus the rest of the city

    Sankt-Petersburg Yuzhny: Pushkinsky, Kolpinsky, Nevsky
    Sankt-Petersburg Zapadny: Petrodvortsovy, Krasnoselsky, Moskovsky
    Sankt-Petersburg Tsentralny: Kirovsky, Admiralteysky, Vasileostrovsky
    Sankt-Petersburg Severny: Kurortny, Primorsky, Petrogradsky, Tsentralny
    Sankt-Petersburg Vostochny: the rest of Saint Petersburg

    Ural Yuzhny: the rest of Orenburg oblast

    Kazan Severnaya: northern Kazan; lots of rural territory in northern Tatarstan
    Kazan Yuzhnaya: southern Kazan; lots of rural territory in southern Tatarstan

    Yekaterinburg Severny: northern part of Yekaterinburg, some rural territory nearby
    Yekaterinburg Yuzhny: southern part of Yekaterinburg, some rural territory nearby

    Chelyabinsk Severny: northern part of Chelyabinsk, some rural territory nearby
    Chelyabinsk Yuzhny: southern part of Chelyabinsk, some rural territory nearby

    Novosibirisk Severny: northern part of Novosibirisk, some rural territory nearby
    Novosibirisk Yuzhny: southern part of Novosibirisk, some rural territory nearby

    The problem with Russian adjective endings is that they depend on the noun's gender/number (every noun has a gender in Russian). -ny is masculine, -naya is feminine, -noye is neuter, -nye is plural. Most cities are considered masculine, but there are exceptions, like Moscow, Ryazan, Kazan, Astrakhan, Perm, Tver and any city ending with -a (all feminine), Naberezhnye Chelny (plural, Chelny = canoes). If the city ends with -sk, it's 100% masculine.

    Btw, awesome project. Keep up the good work.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_Eastern_Federal_District
    Far East Federal District has 7 seats.
    Sakha: Sakha
    Kamchatka-Chukotka: Kamchatka, Chukotka, Magadan
    Amur: Amur, Jewish Autonomous Oblast
    Sakhalin: Sakhalin
    Khabarovsk: Khabarovsk
    Vladivostok: the city of Vladivostok and some neighboring areas
    Arsenyev: the rest of Primorsky Krai

    Russia ended up with 148 seats, counting Crimea.
     
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    thx for the help, and the kind words.
    BTW I have now drawn all of Russia's constituencies. I have drawn everything.
    Apologies in advance for the shoddy somewhat inaccurate shapes of many European Russia constituencies on the map - I tried my best.
     
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    europe house of representatives districts expanded europe.png

    Russia (148), Azerbaijan (9), Armenia (3), Georgia (3), Turkey (83), Cyprus (2), Ukraine (40), Moldova (2), Belarus (9), Romania (20), Bulgaria (7), Estonia (1), Latvia (2), Lithuania (3), Serbia (8), Kosovo (2), Macedonia (2), Finland (6), Poland (39), Slovakia (4), Hungary (10), Bosnia (3), Montenegro (1), Sweden (10), Czechia (9), Austria (9), Slovenia (2), Croatia (4), Norway (5), Denmark (6), Germany (81), Liechtenstein (1), Switzerland (9), Italy (61), San Marino (1), Malta (1), Netherlands (16), Belgium (11), Luxembourg (1), France (63), Monaco (1), Iceland+Faroe Islands (1), UK+Ireland (68), Andorra (1), Spain (47), Portugal (10)
    827 seats in total