Europe 1900

Burakius

Banned
What does it take to make Europe something like this in 1900, with peace between at least Russia and Turkey/Ottomans/insert new thing. (notice that the map is not finished yet, so u can fill stuff in).

I'm tryin to get a new story set up, and want some ideas (damn its a jpg :( ):

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What's the Dark Grey?

and is that Spain in the Netherlands?

how big and how much creativity can we use with regards to states in the blank spaces?

Regardless, you'd have to keep the Crimean Khanate around, keep Russia pretty weak, and keep Africa Colonialism free? no idea how to pull that off.
 

Burakius

Banned
It's a very big Netherlands: Greater Netherlands, wich include Vlaanderen.
Also it's Ukraine. So already partioned in 1900.
 
?Is that Tunisia the same color as Italy? Whether that is Italy or some independent, I don't see Libya, I see that area divided with Eygpt.

If whe start with Norway/Sweden/Finland being one, then whe have a 1808 POD.
then in 1830 Belgium stays part of Netherlands.

France doesn't restore a Republic/Monarch in the 1830's -- So no conquest of Algeria.

Germany unites in the 1840's -- war with Denmark brings Jutland into the German Empire, Sweden takes the Island.

Austria - Hungary splits in the 1840's, allowing a [1860's?] Uniting Italy to hold Slovenia.

Austria joins Germany 18??.

Great War around the turn Century

Ottomans lose Balkans, Levant/Syria.
Persia takes Arabia with British Backing.
Levant become small wrangling Arab states.

Russian Civil War
Independent Ukraine, Independent Baltic??, Russia split into independent Siberia, East Coast..
Caucuses Independent, Georgia, Armenia Etc.
Persia takes Stans.
Rif in Morocco 1920's, Wins throws out Spanish, takes parts of Algeria, [It was only intervention of French that prevented this OTL]
 
That's an awkward Ukraine you've got there. For a Ukraine which is independent without having the western regions (where the Ukrainian nationalists are, a situation which has only changed to any great extent since 1991), there are a few possibilities:

- A PoD back before the Ruin (which raises questions about the Crimea and Odessa).

-Being willed into existence by some powerful sponsor, probably German (which raised the question of why it doesn't have Volhynia and even some its of Podolia).

-Overlapping with the last one, a very funny ending to the Russian Civil War. Very quick guide to the RCW in the Ukraine: it was contested by four factions in shifting alliances: Reds (wanted Ukraine united with Russia), Whites (didn't believe in Ukraine), Blacks or Makhnovites (didn't believe in much except defending themselves and their communities), and the Ukrainian directorate. The Poles and the Entente also stuck their noses in. In OTL's circumstances, nobody had much chance except the Reds. The Blacks were a small facton with a largely peasent base of support and were going to be disposed of by the winner as soon as his position was secure, as the Reds did OTL. The Whites aren't much help to us because even if they somehow took over Ukraine and nothing else (if they haven't won the RCW, which is just about plausible if you really stretch it but is going to leave Russia as a big fat mess for some time), then whoever reigns in Moscow can squahs them), it would be South Russia and ruled as such. So for an indepedent Ukraine, you really need something to go massively wrong for the Reds combined with a conerted Polish-Entente efort to prop up the Directrate (which never really excerpted any control over the Donbas and the Black Sea cities: they were in these Red support bases briefly by the grace of the Germans). It's going to have to be outright offensive war against the Bolsheviks by everyone.

-And on this general subject, what's happened to the Kuban? If the Moscow government has been soundly gang-banged, I would inagine a jumble of states in the North Caucasus, but that border looks odd.
 
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