Ethnic Make-Up of British North America

Assuming Mexico and the Caribbean remain vaguely like OTL, what would be the difference in ethnic groups and ancestry in a British North America?
 
But how many, do you think? Due to the fact that a British North America may be more hostile to Catholicism, do you think they could fill much the same role as Italian immigrants?
 
But how many, do you think? Due to the fact that a British North America may be more hostile to Catholicism, do you think they could fill much the same role as Italian immigrants?
If they have Quebec then they'd best be nicer to Catholics. Not sure what the Italians did in the US, I was thinking whatever role they filled in South Africa or the Carribbean.
 
Hmm... given the Court of St. James wasn't all that enthusiastic about British America in general, it's doubtful they would have bothered to acquire the lands we bought via the Louisana Purchase.

All land in British America belonged to the Crown, with parts held under feoff and sections chartered for cities, so there was no big reason to push west.

I'd guess the ethnic mix would be pretty much the same, but the political boundaries would be much different.
 
If they have Quebec then they'd best be nicer to Catholics. Not sure what the Italians did in the US, I was thinking whatever role they filled in South Africa or the Carribbean.

Well I was thinking with the catholicism it would be one of those "well, it's alright in Maryland and Quebec, but everywhere else shouldn't have so many Papists." Like, not outlawed, just kind of a general hostility, like with OTL America and socialism.

I'm basically wanting to really start a timeline this time, one that actually explores the question of British North America.
 
Hmm... given the Court of St. James wasn't all that enthusiastic about British America in general, it's doubtful they would have bothered to acquire the lands we bought via the Louisana Purchase.

All land in British America belonged to the Crown, with parts held under feoff and sections chartered for cities, so there was no big reason to push west.

I'd guess the ethnic mix would be pretty much the same, but the political boundaries would be much different.

It's honestly not up to the court of Saint James. The American settlers pretty much wanted to reach the Pacific from the get-go. In this timeline, they are still recklessly pushy regarding intrusions into Native, French and Spanish territory, but for whatever reason (I haven't decided yet) they don't choose to go the route of independence.

Edit: When I speak of ethnicity, I'm not just talking about "white, black, brown", I'm also inquiring about such subtle variations as "Dutch, Swedish, Italian, Irish" as these also have huge impacts on culture.
 

mowque

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Honestly, if the British allow free emigration, you'll see the same mix I think, in many ways. Lots of Brits at first, followed by Germans and such later. Italians, Poles, even Irish are later and will be heavily butterflied.

Will the 'USA' have slavery? Or what is the deal with the South?
 
Honestly, if the British allow free emigration, you'll see the same mix I think, in many ways. Lots of Brits at first, followed by Germans and such later. Italians, Poles, even Irish are later and will be heavily butterflied.

Will the 'USA' have slavery? Or what is the deal with the South?

I don't see why Britain wouldn't still ban slavery. This will probably cause some kind of rebellion/attempted seccession in the South, which will require a good number of British troops to deal with.
 

mowque

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I don't see why Britain wouldn't still ban slavery. This will probably cause some kind of rebellion/attempted seccession in the South, which will require a good number of British troops to deal with.

I think AH.com has hit this issue before, but I am unaware of its findings. We'll have to do some research, and besides, as Finn's TL, he gets to pick. We can just suggest.
 
Well it's my timeline, so any actual research will be done by me, so don't worry about that. But suggestions are completely welcome.
 
Regarding slavery, I don't know. I do know it will end a few decades before it did OTL, and I do know I want the south to be a bastion of Republican revolts sometime after. But that isn't important right now.

Do you think there would be a sort of Liberia-colony set up from British territory in Africa?
 
If they have Quebec then they'd best be nicer to Catholics. Not sure what the Italians did in the US, I was thinking whatever role they filled in South Africa or the Carribbean.

Indians might fill the role of Chinese in this time line, especially if BNA expands west. Much easier to attract workers from within the Empire than from outside.
 
Given that there was in OTL, yes.

Wait, you gave us that? Did you sell it? I always thought it was just some crappy coast no one else wanted (it being pre-scramble and all) where we tried (and failed) to send all of our blacks.
 
I like the idea of Indians filling the role of Chinese. The BNA will extend from sea to shining sea, never fear.

Do you think the Irish would come in more or less numbers?
 
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Wait, you gave us that? Did you sell it? I always thought it was just some crappy coast no one else wanted (it being pre-scramble and all) where we tried (and failed) to send all of our blacks.

I think he's referring to Sierra Leone.

I think there'd still be a lot of Irish immigration to British North America, since there was a lot of Irish immigration to the UK and Canada. Ireland needed an outlet for its overpopulation, and the huge English-speaking expanse right across the ocean is a sensible bet.
 
Finn: I guess Thande was referring to Sierra Leone, where the British some of settled their own freed slaves.
 
If the USA are nicer to Catholics and somehow Germans and Scandinavian don't immigrate maybe many North Italians could go there as farmers.
 
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