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So Germany will not declare war - and it's reasonable.

On the other side, the memorandum shows clearly that if Russia would declare war, the new Alliance system will trigger further declarations of war which end in a very comfortable situation for Germany - effectively it's more or less CP plus Britain.

Given that the Russians expect their domestic problems to persist until the next year (this likely assumes a sensible leadership, which I don't see yet) and only after then the rebellions of Finland and Poland should be crushed, Germany has still more than a year to supply the revolutionaries - more than enough time for Russia to find a casus belli.
 
Nicholas III, being a man of reason, shall absolutely love the idea of the Great Powers treating Russia like another China.

Do you mean Wilhelm III? Or were you thinking that Grand Duke Nicholas Nikolaevich might have some visions of imperial grandeur in his head?
 
Do you mean Wilhelm III? Or were you thinking that Grand Duke Nicholas Nikolaevich might have some visions of imperial grandeur in his head?

I think Nicholas II. Yeah, he will be absolutely thrilled by the idea that a great power conference will tell him what to do. Being known for his reasonabnleness and mental stability, I am sure he will negotiate the best terms and settle down peacefully to spend more time with the family and care for his handicapped son. Or declare war. That works, too.

Nikolai is somethingorother of cavalry and in effect in charge of the Russian army. He doesn't want any promotion. At this point, nobody wants to be emperor of Russia, so Czar Nicholas can sleep soundly.
 
At this point, nobody wants to be emperor of Russia, so Czar Nicholas can sleep soundly.

Even if nobody wants to be emperor of Russia, I wouldn't be surprised if there are quite some who want another emperor of Russia. And with time passing by, many officers engaged in punitive action against the own population rather than Polish or Finish rebels or Japanese...

By the way, with the revolutions dragging on for at least another year, and ethnically non-Russians more and more excluded from government posts, I wonder what the Baltic elites - many of them German nobles - are thinking right now?
 
Even if nobody wants to be emperor of Russia, I wouldn't be surprised if there are quite some who want another emperor of Russia. And with time passing by, many officers engaged in punitive action against the own population rather than Polish or Finish rebels or Japanese...

There's always Mikhail. And for every time Nicholas invokes Ivan IV, he can conjure with the spectre of Peter III.

By the way, with the revolutions dragging on for at least another year, and ethnically non-Russians more and more excluded from government posts, I wonder what the Baltic elites - many of them German nobles - are thinking right now?

I think their reaction is adequately summed up by WTF!? Unfortunately, the future holds little good for their community. Baltendeutsche Treue will become one of those sad stories.
 
Just read all of this in a day. Thrilling stuff.

I hate to be 'that guy', but will there be a map soon?

Can you make one? I suck at graphics software and would rather use what littlke time I've got for this writring it. anyway, right now the diofferences are tiny. Take an atlas c. 1900 and recolour the Congo and a corner of Ostafrika. There, done.
 
Can you make one? I suck at graphics software and would rather use what littlke time I've got for this writring it. anyway, right now the diofferences are tiny. Take an atlas c. 1900 and recolour the Congo and a corner of Ostafrika. There, done.

Hm. I could take a shot at it - I've been playing around in Gimp a lot recently. Give me a day or two, though.
 
Hm. I could take a shot at it - I've been playing around in Gimp a lot recently. Give me a day or two, though.

Cool, no hurry. Does the description in the article in the Congo compromise make sense to you? I've used terminology from a British atlas printed in 1890 and a German one from 1912. The "Burundi territory" is more than just the modern state Burundi, it's a broad corridor. The exact boundaries were not yet defined at the time, but I'm assuming more or less modern Ruanda and Burundi, enough room for a railway.
 
26 December 1905, Hamburg

Departed from port this day: SS Hedwig Laeisz. Destination: St Petersburg. Cargo: Grain, legumes, sugar, tinned meat. Recipient: For charity distribution. Charter: Consumer Cooperative “Produktion”.
 
27 December 1905, Gatchina

The barracks of the blue curassiers were more of a home to Grand Duke Mikhail than Moscow ever could be. On returning to his regiment after his long stay with the itinerant court, the young man found a sense of purpose and usefulness he had missed during these long months. Of course, his rank precluded him from any real danger, but he was at least taking part in the plans and preparations being made. The trip through the snowbound hills alone had been a thrilling ride – the railways from St Petersburg were unsafe, occasionally patrolled by armed Socialists, so he had detrained well south of the city and made his way on horseback and by sleigh, accompanied by a detail of the life guards. These poor fellows were now sitting idle in the guardrooms of Gatchina Palace where their charge came only to sleep. Mikhail preferred to spend his days with the officers of the garrison, drilling troops, talking tactics and strategy, readying for the advance into the city. It felt somewhat like a siege, but he had something useful to do.
Right now, seated in the creaky but comfortable chairs in the map room of the commanding general's residence, he was talking strategy with Colonel Denikin. Mikhail fopund himself impressed by the infantry officer, though he often thought that the man's arrow-straight rectitude and devotion to the letter of the law would have made him happier in the Prussian army than in that of the Czar.
“The cuirassiers will have to stand back. It's not about your person, it is a matter of tactics. we do not expect to be dispersing rioters or protesters, where cavalry sabres are useful. The rebels in St Petersburg are going to fight us from the moment we set foot in the city. Heavy cavalry would only make a target. Sir.”
Mikhail nodded. Personally, he felt sorry for his regiment, but it was obviously right.
“Don't worry, Sir. There'll be enough for them to do once we're going up against the Germans.”
The grand Duke smiled grimly. One of the less appealing aspects of the secrecy that surrounded Russia's government was that everyone thought they had the secrets figured out. Of course, his brother had increasingly frozen him out of the deliberations of the State Council, so it was entirely plausible Denikin might really know something more than he. He decided to probe a bit.
“What makes you so sure, colonel? We aren't even finished with the Japanese yet, and that's not been going that well lately.”
You could talk that way to Denikin. He was uptight and sometimes prickly, but he would not snitch on a fellow officer. Certainly not one with the political connections to make it risky, but even on general principle. If he couldn't tell you something, he'd tell you so.
“Sir, it's obvious.”, he pointed out. “We cannot let the kind of insult they inflicted go unpunished. Preparations are under way, and the situation is favourable.”
That was news for Mikhail.
“Look at the dispositions. The emperor has called on General Sukhomlinov to command operations in the “Western Theatre”. They sent a circular to pretty much everyone. No new troops are being sent east. I'm confident we will have peace with Japan soon, and then we will go to Berlin.”
Of course, Mikhail had been thinking along those lines himself. The appointment was out of the ordinary, and many commanders of military districts had been upset. Of course the official line was that he would be reorganising command as part of the coming military reform. Mikhail was certain it had more to do with restoring order in unreliable units and quelling mutinies. He was sure that there had been more of these than the press admitted, though even he was not privy to exactly how many. Sukhomlinov did not strike him as an ideal choice to fight a war, much more so to coordinate and organise an institutional effort.
“I think that may be more to do with the rebellion. You know it must be worse than the papers allow.” A quick gesture taking in their evirons pointed to the obvious: if over ten thousand men at Gatchina – reinforced by the remaining loyal forces from St Petersburg and Zarskoye Selo – could not just take back the city, then thins were a lot worse than the national papers said. Who knew what it was like in Kiev, in Minsk, Odessa, Vilna or Novgorod? Not good, they all supposed.
“The rabble is not a real enemy.” Denikin replied. “I suppose you know more about what is happening at the court anyway, but it won't take us more than the spring to clean up this mess. We are mainly waiting for the troops to be in position, they we'll restore order. And then, what better way to restore Russia's position in the world and unite the country than to beat the enemy who inflicted this crisis on us in the first place?”
“I don't know a lot more than you do, actually, colonel.” Mikhail pointed out. Denikin seemed unconvinced. “The emperor believes in keeping important information in as few hands as possible. everyone is told only what they need to know, and there are no exceptions for friends and family.”
The grand duke did not exactly radiate conviction. Denikin seemed puzzled for a moment.
“It is – regrettable that His Majesty should forgo the advice of an able military leader.”, he said in the end. Mikhail glanced at his face. The man seemed entirely serious. That was worth remembering.
 

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...Wait, what?

Has the entire court gone mad?

"Even though we couldn't beat the yellow devils, we can easily take on the second most industrialized nation in Europe and win."
 
...Wait, what?

Has the entire court gone mad?

"Even though we couldn't beat the yellow devils, we can easily take on the second most industrialized nation in Europe and win."

At this point, it's just rumours. but Nicholas is certainly nuts, and Dubrovin - well, he has just gifted his Czar with about two million "Patriotic Union volunteers" who, in his mind, are far superior to the merely drilled Prussians because their soul is on fire for Holy Russia. And of course, as far as the Russians know, France is with them every step of the way. They've read the Deroulede letters.

Mikhail is scared, though.
 
Beatiful as always. I don't comment much, but I'm certainly enjoying the ride.

Attacking Germany would be complete madness, at the least in the short term, even if they rein in the rebellions, their control would be shaky at best, if they try to advance they would risk the rebels rising up behind them, cutting off their supply lines (which even in a best-case scenario don't excatly seem reliable). An attack would trigger the german defensive alliances and french intervention is not guaranteed :eek:.
 
Attacking Germany would be complete madness, at the least in the short term, even if they rein in the rebellions, their control would be shaky at best, if they try to advance they would risk the rebels rising up behind them, cutting off their supply lines (which even in a best-case scenario don't excatly seem reliable). An attack would trigger the german defensive alliances and french intervention is not guaranteed :eek:.

Of course it's madness.

Nevertheless, there are some reasons for such a war: Russia lost against Japan, and the peace will show that. As Denikin said, it's typical to go for another war to reproof ones greatness. Furthermore, all autocratic rulers tend to go to war to distract the population from internal problems. As war in Asia proved to be too much, one has to go to war in Europe. Now coincidently, the rebels are supported by Germany to a very high degree - "volunteer" trainers, supplies, weapons, free passage... the Russians will know everything. More than enough to derive a casus belli if you want one.

Overall, it wouldn't be that surprising if the Russians consider yet another war as distraction and as affirmation of their great power status. That war can only be fought in Europe - they showed their inability of waging a modern war in Asia. And Germany gave them more than enough reason to go to war.
 
I undestand your point, it's just that we know that these germans are even more deadlier than OTL, with no stupid ideas like conquering Russia, overstretching themselves and becoming vulnerable to counterattacks and scorched-earth tactics. The end result for the Russians could be worse than brest-livotsk (sorry if it's not written correctly).
 
I undestand your point, it's just that we know that these germans are even more deadlier than OTL, with no stupid ideas like conquering Russia, overstretching themselves and becoming vulnerable to counterattacks and scorched-earth tactics. The end result for the Russians could be worse than brest-livotsk (sorry if it's not written correctly).

Given how harsh Brest-Litovsk was OTL, I'm not entirely certain how any treaty could be worse for Russia than Brest-Litovsk if Germany is to avoid imperial overstretch or a war of attrition.
 
But Russia will be seen as the aggressor and that means that at least Great Britain will join on Germany's side.

The treaty is secret. And from a pure balance of power viewpoint, Britain has no reason to join the war from the start IMHO.

I think the Russians hope for a limited war Russa-Germany but calculate with a wider war France/Russia - Germany/AH. Thus, Britain will surprise them. During such a war, I would expect Italy to attack France as well - good opportunity to be used, probably not from the start though. If Japan has had time to consolidate, they may be back in as well - again, a good opportunity. Speaking of which, the Ottomans might also consider jumping in to get some parts of the falling giant.
 

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The treaty is secret. And from a pure balance of power viewpoint, Britain has no reason to join the war from the start IMHO.

I think the Russians hope for a limited war Russa-Germany but calculate with a wider war France/Russia - Germany/AH. Thus, Britain will surprise them. During such a war, I would expect Italy to attack France as well - good opportunity to be used, probably not from the start though. If Japan has had time to consolidate, they may be back in as well - again, a good opportunity. Speaking of which, the Ottomans might also consider jumping in to get some parts of the falling giant.

If Russia and France attack Germany, Italy shall all but surely join the CP from the start. The terms of the defensive alliance would bind us. Moreover, with Britain at least a pro-CP neutral, everybody in Rome would see the strategic situation strongly favors the CP. It would be a golden opportunity for Italy to recover the French irredenta (Nice, Savoy, Corsica, Tunisia) and cut down a rival for supremacy in the Med.
 
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