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aka the Mary becomes queen in 1536 TL
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Equal and Indivisible - A Tudor Timeline

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Sketch of the Lady Mary, daughter of King Henry, done by Hans Holbein in 1536

“No one could have disproved that this august Lady was the daughter of Kings.”
– apocryphal quote, usually attributed to Eustace Chapuys, Imperial Ambassador to England
 
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January 1536
“For England, the year 1536 could not have begun more auspiciously enough. On the 7th of January, during a particularly bitter afternoon frost on the More, Catherine, the abandoned and betrayed wife of King Henry VIII, breathed her last while held in the arms of her oldest and dearest friend, Mary, Lady Willoughby. Writing to the King on her deathbed, she entreated her husband to be a good father to their daughter, to whom she left her furs and her Spanish cross, requested that all her servants be duly recompensed, and asked that five hundred Masses be said for her soul and to be buried in a convent of the Observant Friars.

Rumours of poisoning, said to have been slipped into the Welsh ale she so loved, soon abounded, as the embalmer who was tasked with preparing Catherine for her final rest was said to have ‘found all the internal organs as healthy and normal as possible, with the exception of the heart, which was quite black and hideous to look at.’ Today, however, we might diagnose this as a cancer of the heart.

At court, however, celebrations of her death were loud, almost garish. Courtiers were told to dress in a merry shade of yellow, while the King was said to have shown off little Elizabeth and afterwards danced the night away in Anne’s arms. The threat of war was over, Anne was secure on her throne, almost certainly pregnant with a prince. Henry’s golden reign was sure to begin anew.

Or so they thought.”

– Edla Kirkbride, Humble and Loyal: Catherine of Aragon and her reign


“Two weeks later, on the 24th, still high on the celebrations of Katherine’s death, the king organized a joust at Greenwich. It proved to be his final performance, as at the tiltyard the king was unhorsed by an opponent. Toppling to the ground as the horse sped away, his full steel armour collapsed on top of him, breaking his neck. By the time the royal physicians were able to tend to him, Henry had already slipped into a coma.

Despite all the prayers and vigils of his court and all of England, the king never regained consciousness, slipping away from this mortal coil several hours later, in the wee hours of the 25th of January at the Palace of Greenwich. So passed Henry, the eighth of that name, King of England [1].”

– Alastair Goodlowe, Henry Rex

“The Duke of Norfolk, ever vigilant about intrigue, was the first to arrive at the Queen’s bedchamber, telling his niece the news himself. Anne, who was kneeling on her prie-dieu to fervently pray for the life of the King, was said to have swooned and wept in the arms of her uncle at the news of her husband’s death, but not before her hand ‘flew protectively to her goodly belly, for if the child she was carrying was lost, then England would be sure to follow.’

Charles Brandon, the Duke of Suffolk, was nowhere to be found, however, slipping away undetected as a lone rider still wearing jousting armour during the pandemonium caused by the king’s fall. Even while the king breathed his last, Suffolk did not return, although he later said that it ached his heart not to be at the side of the friend he’d known since boyhood at the time he’d him needed the most.

As dawn breaks upon England, a weary rider brings his tidings to a grieving court: the King’s daughters, bastard and legitimate, were nowhere to be found, disappearing from Hatfield whilst the ladies of the household were unknowingly drugged at dinner.”

– Immaculata Applegarth, Intrigue at the Tudor Court
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[1] And here is our POD: Instead of merely losing consciousness after a nasty tumble and possibly a concussion during the joust, Henry instead breaks his neck during the fall, dying way earlier than scheduled.
 
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This is so amazing! Happier, healthier, stabler Mary as Queen of England! Can't wait to see if she marries James V or maybe a pro-Habsburg relative like Portuguese infantes Luís (b. 1506) or Duarte (b. 1515).

I feel slightly bad for baby Elizabeth and her unborn sibling though. Wonder what will become of the Boleyns and their supporters under this new regime, since they are all still pretty much alive.

Anyways, watched!
 
Wikes, things are sure looking gloomy for the Boleyn clan. I wonder if Anne will still loose her child on schedule following the stress of Henry's death or if the stillbirth will be butterflied way. Keep up the good work!
 
Wikes, things are sure looking gloomy for the Boleyn clan. I wonder if Anne will still loose her child on schedule following the stress of Henry's death or if the stillbirth will be butterflied way. Keep up the good work!

Hopefully she looses the baby. It would be better for everyone. Mary can shut her up in the strictest nunnery she can find or just loop her head off if she wants.
 
Hopefully she looses the baby. It would be better for everyone. Mary can shut her up in the strictest nunnery she can find or just loop her head off if she wants.
I thought the exact same to be honest, the child was a boy, "her savior" as some historians have called him. Allowing him to live would be a perfect recipe for civil war.
 
If Anne's child is a boy, then he is heir apparent. To displace him, Mary's backers must get Henry's marriage to Anne retroactively voided, making the child a bastard.

That could happen, but I doubt it. Male heirs were overwhelmingly preferred, and Mary's Catholicism is a further handicap.

Of course, that's if. If Anne miscarries, all bets are off. And a girl would rank after Elizabeth.
 
Current pretenders to the throne and their present location at the time of Henry VIII's death:
  • Mary Tudor, daughter of Henry VIII by Catherine of Aragon, excluded by the Act of Succession in 1534, disappeared from Hatfield House, whereabouts unknown
  • Elizabeth Tudor, daughter of Henry VIII by Anne Boleyn, disappeared from Hatfield House, whereabouts unknown
  • Henry Fitzroy, Duke of Richmond and Somerset, illegitimate son of Henry VIII by Elizabeth Blount, in residence at Windsor Castle under heavy guard by his father-in-law, the Duke of Norfolk
  • unborn child of Henry VIII by Anne Boleyn
  • James V of Scotland, son of Margaret Tudor by James IV, in residence at Stirling Castle
  • Margaret Douglas, daughter of Margaret Tudor by Archibald Douglas, in residence at Greenwich as a lady-in-waiting to Queen Anne
  • Frances Grey, Marchioness of Dorset, daughter of Mary Tudor by Charles Brandon, in residence at Bradgate House
  • Eleanor Brandon, daughter of Mary Tudor by Charles Brandon, currently travelling to the More to act as chief mourner for Catherine of Aragon's funeral
  • various other members of the English nobility with Plantagenet descent, chief among them the Poles, headed by Margaret, Countess of Salisbury
 
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Current pretenders to the throne and their present location at the time of Henry VIII's death:
  • Mary Tudor, daughter of Henry VIII by Catherine of Aragon, excluded by the Act of Succession in 1534, disappeared from Hunsdon House, whereabouts unknown
  • Elizabeth Tudor, daughter of Henry VIII by Anne Boleyn, disappeared from Hunsdon House, whereabouts unknown
  • Henry Fitzroy, Duke of Richmond and Somerset, illegitimate son of Henry VIII by Elizabeth Blount, in residence at Windsor Castle under heavy guard by his father-in-law, the Duke of Norfolk
  • unborn child of Henry VIII by Anne Boleyn
  • James V of Scotland, son of Margaret Tudor by James IV, in residence at Stirling Castle
  • Margaret Douglas, daughter of Margaret Tudor by Archibald Douglas, in residence at Greenwich as a lady-in-waiting to Queen Anne
  • Frances Grey, Marchioness of Dorset, daughter of Mary Tudor by Charles Brandon, in residence at Bradgate House
  • Eleanor Brandon, daughter of Mary Tudor by Charles Brandon, currently travelling to the More to act as chief mourner for Catherine of Aragon's funeral
  • various other members of the English nobility with Plantagenet descent, chief among them the Poles, headed by Margaret, Countess of Salisbury
Elizabeth was NOT with Mary at that time. She was in her house at Hatfield House while Mary was at Hundson after her mother’s death
 
Elizabeth was NOT with Mary at that time. She was in her house at Hatfield House while Mary was at Hundson after her mother’s death
In my defence I always mix up Hundson and Hatfield. But Mary wouldn't be removed from Elizabeth's household until around February IOTL.
 
In my defence I always mix up Hundson and Hatfield. But Mary wouldn't be removed from Elizabeth's household until around February IOTL.
No, Mary was at Hundson just after the death of her mother in OTL so she was there when her father had the jousting accident
 
No, Mary was at Hundson just after the death of her mother in OTL so she was there when her father had the jousting accident

Mary Tudor Princess Bastard Queen - Anna Whitelock said:
Four days after Katherine’s death, Lady Shelton went to Mary and “most unceremoniously without the least preparation” told her that her mother was dead.

Mary Tudor Princess Bastard Queen - Anna Whitelock said:
In early February, Mary changed residence. The imperial ambassador reported that the princess was well and “better accompanied on her removal and provided with what was necessary to her than she had been before.” Her father had put “about 100,000 crowns” at her disposal to distribute in alms. It had been rumored that the king meant “to increase her train and exalt her position.”

Mary would still in Elizabeth's household when her mother died, considering it was Lady Shelton who broke the news to her.
 
Mary would still in Elizabeth's household when her mother died, considering it was Lady Shelton who broke the news to her.
Yes, she was still formally part of Elizabeth’s household but at the time of the joust she was away from Hatfield (as she had been allowed to stay at Hudson for some time for grieving her mother)

Anyway, Mary has Elizabeth now in her custody.
The point is who they were already in different places
 
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