English loose the French and Indian War.

NomadicSky

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Would England was forced to cede her colonies in North America to Spain and France? What might the situation in the Americas be like today?
 

Philip

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Would England was forced to cede her colonies in North America to Spain and France?

The UK would have to loose rather severely. To be forced to cede the colonies, France and Spain would most likely have to occupy them during the war. If Hanover were occupied, maybe the British would trade some of the colonies. However, I don't think the British Parliament was too keen on defending Hanover, and they might just let it go. If the colonies are ceded, I don't think they would respond very well.

It seems more likely to me that the Spanish would receive a border adjustment between Florida and Georgia, and the French get Acadia back.
 
I seriously doubt that France or Spain would want them. England's Benign neglect of the NAm Colonies has left them too Independent to be brought under others control.

Any attempt by France or Spain to impose control would lead to a American Revolution of 1765.

?Any one want to speculate on what France /Austria/Russia winning the 7 years war does to Europe? [Prussia gets crushed]
 
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?Any one want to speculate on what France /Austria/Russia winning the 7 years war does to Europe? [Prussia gets crushed]

Yes, Prussia is crushed, Russia get more lands to the West, Austria to the North and France to the east. By conquest, treaty or exchange. France gets a longer Rhine border.

Also, India is likely to become french.
 

Valdemar II

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?Any one want to speculate on what France /Austria/Russia winning the 7 years war does to Europe? [Prussia gets crushed]

Austria get Silesia, Sweden get the rest of Vorpommern, Russia get Ducal Prussia (likely traded to PL for Courland or some easten territories), Saxony get the Prussian enclave in Saxony, and either Magdeburg or some (or all) of Prussias Western Exclaves (Cleve and Mark is most likely). I don't know if France get anything from Prussia, with all the colonial gain they get.
 
Austria get Silesia, Sweden get the rest of Vorpommern, Russia get Ducal Prussia (likely traded to PL for Courland or some easten territories), Saxony get the Prussian enclave in Saxony, and either Magdeburg or some (or all) of Prussias Western Exclaves (Cleve and Mark is most likely). I don't know if France get anything from Prussia, with all the colonial gain they get.

Outside of the colonies then France's interests would lie in the Low countries and along the Rhine. the Austrian Netherlands for instance would definitely interest them especially if their exertions allow the Austrians to regain Silesia.

Something Maria Theresa is going to favour immensely especially if they can get further concessions in Italy to boot, not that they need any of course they already have plenty.
 
Most likely, as it applies to the New World, there would be a revision of the Treaty of Utrecht. France would want little to do with governing English colonists, but you could see a return of Acadia and Newfoundland to the French as well as control over the Hudson Bay area, which would grant the French a monopoly over the fur trade.

One would certainly suspect that the French would retain their colonial empire and there would be few exchanges beyond what occurs in North America. Spain would probably not get Gibraltar back. Prussia would be dismembered as a result of the treaty with Austria reclaiming Silesia. Ducal Prussia may be left alone, but Prussia has been eliminated as a power as a result of the treaty.

One could suspect that Prussia might later join in on the partition of Poland if it still occurs, so you can't completely count out a Prussian resurgence in the future with the right alliances. You've also eliminated the possibility of an American Revolution and the French Revolution by default.
 
You've also eliminated the possibility of an American Revolution and the French Revolution by default.

Not so on the later. Unless you postulate that this would butterfly ( how? ) in a change in the french social and financial structures. But it will be different from OTL.
 
One could suspect that Prussia might later join in on the partition of Poland if it still occurs, so you can't completely count out a Prussian resurgence in the future with the right alliances. You've also eliminated the possibility of an American Revolution and the French Revolution by default.
But Prussia was main instigator of the partition, so there may be no partition.
 
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