English colonization of Ireland during Potato Famine

I don't know anything about the famine. Did/could the English colonize the island while the native Celtic population was starving?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BRITISH
BRITISH
BRITISH
BRITISH
BRITISH!!!!

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!


I'm done now. And no, we didn't.
 

Valdemar II

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I don't know anything about the famine. Did/could the English colonize the island while the native Celtic population was starving?

>>Deep breath<< No, and they had little interest in it. The potato famine didn't only hit Ireland it also hit the poor in the rest of Britain, the one which should do the colonisation. It didn't happen because the British elite didn't care for the Irish, it happen because they didn't care for the poor period.
 
I don't know anything about the famine. Did/could the English colonize the island while the native Celtic population was starving?

What my esteemed fellow Scotsman is trying to say is that we will kill you all! Every single one of you will...

Ahem, I mean, that given that what historical colonisation by mainland Britons in Ireland there was mostly Scots in Ulster, this is a particular innapropriate use of an inappropriate term.

Anyway, no, no, no! We did not create the famine, we made bungled attempts to relieve it and help the people of Ireland, and we had no desire to "settle" it by that time.

The "Celtic" population is a silly term. Us Scots are Celtic too, as much as most Irishmen are.
 
>>Deep breath<< No, and they had little interest in it. The potato famine didn't only hit Ireland it also hit the poor in the rest of Britain, the one which should do the colonisation. It didn't happen because the British elite didn't care for the Irish, it happen because they didn't care for the poor period.

It happened because potato blight just doesn't give a crap. The British government gave something of a crap about the poor, even the Irish poor, which was why there was an official response, just a faultering bungled one.

And there was very little effect on Great Britain because there was much less of a potato monoculture. There were also minor outbreaks in Canada and Germany, though, which proves my point that "the British government" "caused" shit all.
 
What the devil interest would the Scots have in screwing over their fellow Celts? They already screw themselves over enough. Yes, yes the British did it but surely the majority of British atrocities committed against the Irish were committed by the English British. I don't see the Welsh or Cornish British as interested in that sort of thing.
 

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I don't know anything about the famine. Did/could the English colonize the island while the native Celtic population was starving?

Yes, yes they did. They twirled their moustaches and laughed behind their capes while they were doing it.

They then killed every pig in Kerry to make square balls for the Eton wall game AND THREW THE MEAT AWAY!
 
What the devil interest would the Scots have in screwing over their fellow Celts? They already screw themselves over enough. Yes, yes the British did it but surely the majority of British atrocities committed against the Irish were committed by the English British. I don't see the Welsh or Cornish British as interested in that sort of thing.

Your assumption is that being part of a country gives you the option of opting out of stuff the rest of the nation does? What weird ass country do you live in? From your statement I can also infer that you're looking for a rather one sided stereotypical Irish-American response then? That England is the bad guys and if it weren't for them Ireland would have led the world into broad, sunlit uplands as the global hegemon? Just guessing, hopefully I'm wrong...
 
You are dead to me. Dead. Buried in a hole in the ground, under a simple slab of granite labelled "Here lies a man who pissed off the Scots. Don't. Seriously." I respond to your post out of pure concern for others.

What the devil interest would the Scots have in screwing over their fellow Celts?

My statement was intended to convey the uselessness of the term "Celtic" in modern times, not as a statement on national solidarity. You think Scots and Irish like eachother? Ever been to a football match up here?

What interest would we have? Ask the 16th century colonists. I wasn't saying we would (we wouldn't) in the 1840s, I was saying we did in the 1600s.

They already screw themselves over enough.

...S'that an insult, Chimmeh?

Yes, yes the British did it but surely the majority of British atrocities committed against the Irish were committed by the English British.

Yeah, they are, like eight-tenths of us. It's statistics. The Scots are distinctly overrepresented in that field though.

Wait, which attrocities? We're talking about the Famine, not the Blacks and Tans.

I don't see the Welsh or Cornish British as interested in that sort of thing.

The Cornish are English you [censored for the benefit of sane and civilised people]!

Also, did you just say "English people are far more inclined to evil than the innocent Celts"? I'm going to have to report that, you know.

Yes, yes they did. They twirled their moustaches and laughed behind their capes while they were doing it.

They then killed every pig in Kerry to make square balls for the Eton wall game AND THREW THE MEAT AWAY!

Bwahahaha, Ireland! No liberty for you! Now if you'll excuse me I need to twirl my moustache in the semi-homosexual fashion befitting me, the Effeminate Scots Collaborator who has sold his national soul to the Germanic Devil and helps him opress the the virile and manly Irish nation.

Isn't overblown 19th Century nationalism fun?
 

Valdemar II

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It happened because potato blight just doesn't give a crap. The British government gave something of a crap about the poor, even the Irish poor, which was why there was an official response, just a faultering bungled one.

And there was very little effect on Great Britain because there was much less of a potato monoculture. There were also minor outbreaks in Canada and Germany, though, which proves my point that "the British government" "caused" shit all.

When 25% of the of population of a territorium dies and another 25% emigrates you answer shouldn't be:
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While the Potato Famine also hit other countries, none of them was hit as hard and some them was as agriculture monoculture as Ireland. Ireland continued exporting food under the famine, that what Sudan is condemn for today.
 
When 25% of the of population of a territorium dies and another 25% emigrates you answer shouldn't be:
http://www.timothysykes.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/steve_urkel.jpg

A) Have you a source on those figures?

B) You can't prove your argument by throwing numbers at me. Disieses can have very devestating effects and we shouldn't feel a knee-jerk need to blame everything on governments.

While the Potato Famine also hit other countries, none of them was hit as hard and some them was as agriculture monoculture as Ireland. Ireland continued exporting food under the famine, that what Sudan is condemn for today.

The important thing is a potato monoculture, and I don't think the other sufferers had that to anywhere near the Irish extent. And if it was all about the Uncaring Evil Aristocrats and none of it was the unqiue condition of Ireland, why weren't potato-dependent areas of Germany hit as badly?

We also condemn governments for locking up political dissidents now. Times and standards have changed, and the fact is there was a relief effort at an official level. It was utterly bungled, but its mere existence seems to contradict your argument.
 

Ian the Admin

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I don't know anything about the famine. Did/could the English colonize the island while the native Celtic population was starving?

What kind of post is this? Why did you make it? Why can't you look something up? It's not even an AH question it's you asking for a history lesson in a flamebait way.
 
Just out of curiousity, just what did Irish peasants eat before potatoes were brought there? I am forever correcting people when they talk about 'Irish' potatoes; I remind them that potatoes come from South America; and I know that some of the dumb shits didn't know that.
 
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