Any possibility of the English aristocracy acquiring a permanent position in the north American colonies? That implies full privielges, Including a seat in the House of Lords?
Any possibility of the English aristocracy acquiring a permanent position in the north American colonies? That implies full privielges, Including a seat in the House of Lords?
Any possibility of the English aristocracy acquiring a permanent position in the north American colonies? That implies full privielges, Including a seat in the House of Lords?
The Cassique is what I am thinking of, and the First Families of Virginia and Maryland might eventually take up titles if the Deep Southern colonies have them off the bat.
They would be titled but I do think they would be glorified gentry and not much else. The South had aristocrats via its planter class in OTL and this is merely legitimizing them.
Perception is everything though. New England and the Mid-Atlantic would eventually be put off by having aristocrats follow them to the New World via the south.
Thats what I was thinking, the colonies would diverge further politically & socially were the aristocracy firmly implanted.
Well if Patroons and Jonkeers from the New Netherlands become ennobled by the English as a way of winning them over, too, then we have more northern aristocrats as well...
True that, but a revolt in 1753 in Rensselaerwyck patroon by local Yankee tenants exposed how weak they were already, to say nothing of things by the Revolution. I see Patroons fading away like OTL.
The planters in Dixie are big enough as a group to become a lasting upper class, enobled or not.
Pennsylvania had a Proprietor, like Maryland. Calvert of Maryland was Lord Baltimore. WI William Penn gets a title of Baron, with right to show up at Westminster when visiting England?Perception is everything though. New England and the Mid-Atlantic would eventually be put off by having aristocrats follow them to the New World via the south.
Pennsylvania had a Proprietor, like Maryland. Calvert of Maryland was Lord Baltimore. WI William Penn gets a title of Baron, with right to show up at Westminster when visiting England?