England wins the Hundred years war: what next?

The Irish and the English did. Richer and more populous England ruling Ireland lead to English speaking. And seeing how much influence French had when it was only Normandy I can see French becoming a bigger influence.

What we did to Ireland is a bit different then simple "cultural influence".
 

U.S David

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I'm assuming Ireland and the Low countries will be annexed if this Union lasts.

All they need is to take Spain and Portugual, and World Empire will happen sooner or later.
 
I'm assuming Ireland and the Low countries will be annexed if this Union lasts.

All they need is to take Spain and Portugual, and World Empire will happen sooner or later.

Preeeeetty certain that's not how it works, unless your just kidding.
 
The key here is the French nobility, I think. How well can the Plantagenets control them? Do they anglicize? Etc.
 
The key here is the French nobility, I think. How well can the Plantagenets control them? Do they anglicize? Etc.

No, the plantangenants will gaulify most likely. French is already the more prestigious culture and there's no reason for them not to rule from Paris directly given how it's richer and bigger and all around more worthwhile to be king of. In the long term England is going to be the Junior partner in this relationship. If the English don't like that they'll probably revolt against the French half, and given that long distance invasions across large bodies of water are dificult in this time period (see the Hundred Years' War as an example of this), the English probably win.
 
Why does it have to be dominated by one culture? Perhaps the French and English cultures would merge to become one, with the differences between them being merely linguistic (though to a lesser extent than in OTL, with the French and English languages mingling).

Certainly you're going to end up with a very powerful European empire that will be a much stronger rival to Spain in the new world.
 

TFSmith121

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Perhaps, but syncretic nation states/cultures are

Why does it have to be dominated by one culture? Perhaps the French and English cultures would merge to become one, with the differences between them being merely linguistic (though to a lesser extent than in OTL, with the French and English languages mingling).

Certainly you're going to end up with a very powerful European empire that will be a much stronger rival to Spain in the new world.


Perhaps, but syncretic nation states/cultures are rare in the modern era; what would be an analogy in Europe since 1500?

France, perhaps, if you consider the linguistic divides (Provencal, etc) , but those are significantly closer than England and France would be, even in the 1500s.

Spain - hard to see an Anglo-French (Franco-English) polity forcing unification at swordpoint, but at least they would not have the religious issues - at least until or unless a Henry VIII-type figure came along. There there's Ireland...

Italy and Germany, I'd suppose, but those both formed as such much later.

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Uniting the two territories to build a common culture would be alien to everyone involved. Just as the Spanish didn't attempt to make Neapolitans Spanish, the French and English woudl be viewed as separate people.
 
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