Alright, so awhile ago I started doing a timeline that I'd titled Empires End, however going over it I realized their were alot of areas that were just,
well crap, so I've decided to start over while keeping several of the main points of it.
However I've come to the realization that, while I do know enough to get the basics, overall I need help with it overall.
While I have the initial PoD set in the early 19th century, I'm willing to move it back somewhat, but I'd prefer to not go before 1800.
So, here's the PoD(s) and the few basic points throughout the TL I'm adhering to, everything in between though I've not yet decided on.
PoD(s):
• During the late 1820's / early 1830's the French government, seeing the economic and strategic value that a rail transit system could have
started building a national network.
• The United States and Britain go to war as a result of the Caroline Affair (need to work out more details here), resulting eventually in the First Global War.
Main TL Anchors:
• France replaces and outdoes OTL Britain as a world Empire.
• As a result of GW1 the British Empire begins a slow decline, having lost several colonial territories.
• British North America is lost to France and the U.S. in GW1 and the 1st Franco-British War.
• The Crimean War analogue spirals out of control leading to a Second Great War, resulting in a severely defeated Russia, losing a great deal of territory
(resulting in it having more or less modern Russian border with 90% of Belarus) and essentially losing any chance of ever becoming a Great Power.
• Japan casts off isolationism somewhat earlier, eventually taking control of parts of the Russian Far East, Manchuria and all of Taiwan.
• Hawai'i becomes a French overseas territory rather than becoming part of America.
• Global War Two having sapped American military strength leads to a worse ACW until France intervenes, resulting in all of the CSA sans
'Greater New Orleans' being reabsorbed into America as well as American annexation of Baja California and a portion of Mexico just South of Texas.
• The Treaty of London does'nt happen, eventually leading to 'Flanders' being re-absorbed into the Netherlands and France annexing 'Wallonia'.
• Prussia (and by default Germany) never become major powers, and as a result of GW1 loses territory to France and the Netherlands, and later in a different
war much of East Prussia is lost to the French backed Polish.
• Following German Unification the new state's western border is the Rhine, while it's Southern border is with A-H, it's Eastern border with Poland
(slightly East of the modern border, Prussia lost more territory in a different war) and it's Northern border Denmark (with Schleswig-Holstein)
to the North.
• Italian Unification comes as a result of French-backed Sardinia-Piedmont having annexed the other Italian states, after a war between the
Two Sicillies, Papal States and Austria.
• Liberia becomes a failed state soon after its founding, with the remaining population centered around the capital.
• Prussia, still reeling from the defeat of GW1 does not support the uprising during the Schleswig-Holstein Question, leading to the region remaining
a part of Denmark.
• Scandinavia forms as a result of Dano-Swedish close-relations in the second half of the 19th century.
• Ireland is lost to France following the First Franco-British War (1880), it remains an autonomous region of France into the modern day, influencing the
formation of a colony at one point.
• Scotland becomes jointly controlled by France and Britain as a sui generis entity not part of either but not independnent after the
Second Franco-British War (1895), however it eventually votes to rejoin the UK as an autonomous member in the 1960's when French subsidies stop.
• America establishes an East African colony, though not fully intentionally.
• China becomes an American protectorate, resulting in America gaining the Shanghai territory, which later becomes a state in the 1970's.
• Italy and France are long term, close allies.
• Scandinavia retains Saint Barthelemy & the Danish Virgin islands and eventually forms a colony where Liberia was.
• The British Empire by 1900 is comprised of the Home island (England, Wales and the Isle of Man), New Zealand, 1/3 of Australia and 80% of a slightly
larger Raj and the Nepal protectorate.
• The Republic of Hindia becomes an independent (French quasi-puppet) nation somwhere between 1880 and 1920.
• South Africa is a multi-cultural (most Euro nations represented) state with several official languages, including French, English, Dutch and Zulu.
The below map shows the French colonial Empire at its height
1. Light blue are protectorates.
2. The borders of several nations, particularly Scandinavia are not set in stone, and in the latter case are likely to change somewhat.
well crap, so I've decided to start over while keeping several of the main points of it.
However I've come to the realization that, while I do know enough to get the basics, overall I need help with it overall.
While I have the initial PoD set in the early 19th century, I'm willing to move it back somewhat, but I'd prefer to not go before 1800.
So, here's the PoD(s) and the few basic points throughout the TL I'm adhering to, everything in between though I've not yet decided on.
PoD(s):
• During the late 1820's / early 1830's the French government, seeing the economic and strategic value that a rail transit system could have
started building a national network.
• The United States and Britain go to war as a result of the Caroline Affair (need to work out more details here), resulting eventually in the First Global War.
Main TL Anchors:
• France replaces and outdoes OTL Britain as a world Empire.
• As a result of GW1 the British Empire begins a slow decline, having lost several colonial territories.
• British North America is lost to France and the U.S. in GW1 and the 1st Franco-British War.
• The Crimean War analogue spirals out of control leading to a Second Great War, resulting in a severely defeated Russia, losing a great deal of territory
(resulting in it having more or less modern Russian border with 90% of Belarus) and essentially losing any chance of ever becoming a Great Power.
• Japan casts off isolationism somewhat earlier, eventually taking control of parts of the Russian Far East, Manchuria and all of Taiwan.
• Hawai'i becomes a French overseas territory rather than becoming part of America.
• Global War Two having sapped American military strength leads to a worse ACW until France intervenes, resulting in all of the CSA sans
'Greater New Orleans' being reabsorbed into America as well as American annexation of Baja California and a portion of Mexico just South of Texas.
• The Treaty of London does'nt happen, eventually leading to 'Flanders' being re-absorbed into the Netherlands and France annexing 'Wallonia'.
• Prussia (and by default Germany) never become major powers, and as a result of GW1 loses territory to France and the Netherlands, and later in a different
war much of East Prussia is lost to the French backed Polish.
• Following German Unification the new state's western border is the Rhine, while it's Southern border is with A-H, it's Eastern border with Poland
(slightly East of the modern border, Prussia lost more territory in a different war) and it's Northern border Denmark (with Schleswig-Holstein)
to the North.
• Italian Unification comes as a result of French-backed Sardinia-Piedmont having annexed the other Italian states, after a war between the
Two Sicillies, Papal States and Austria.
• Liberia becomes a failed state soon after its founding, with the remaining population centered around the capital.
• Prussia, still reeling from the defeat of GW1 does not support the uprising during the Schleswig-Holstein Question, leading to the region remaining
a part of Denmark.
• Scandinavia forms as a result of Dano-Swedish close-relations in the second half of the 19th century.
• Ireland is lost to France following the First Franco-British War (1880), it remains an autonomous region of France into the modern day, influencing the
formation of a colony at one point.
• Scotland becomes jointly controlled by France and Britain as a sui generis entity not part of either but not independnent after the
Second Franco-British War (1895), however it eventually votes to rejoin the UK as an autonomous member in the 1960's when French subsidies stop.
• America establishes an East African colony, though not fully intentionally.
• China becomes an American protectorate, resulting in America gaining the Shanghai territory, which later becomes a state in the 1970's.
• Italy and France are long term, close allies.
• Scandinavia retains Saint Barthelemy & the Danish Virgin islands and eventually forms a colony where Liberia was.
• The British Empire by 1900 is comprised of the Home island (England, Wales and the Isle of Man), New Zealand, 1/3 of Australia and 80% of a slightly
larger Raj and the Nepal protectorate.
• The Republic of Hindia becomes an independent (French quasi-puppet) nation somwhere between 1880 and 1920.
• South Africa is a multi-cultural (most Euro nations represented) state with several official languages, including French, English, Dutch and Zulu.
The below map shows the French colonial Empire at its height
1. Light blue are protectorates.
2. The borders of several nations, particularly Scandinavia are not set in stone, and in the latter case are likely to change somewhat.
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