I got 2 question
1. How does the pakistani and the yemeni react?
2. Is this ittl black hawk down situation?
(Also you mentioned farragut class is this 1930s destroyer? And if so why does indonesia opt to modernise an old destroyer?)
It is with a heavy heart for the entire Israeli population that we must move elsewhere to survive. However, our allies the United States have been the most welcoming of our exile, wishing our best to reclaim the nation as soon as possible. The Indonesian State of Madagascar has been the friendliest of us too, their warmth to our arrival do attract immigrants arriving on the island. I sincerely grateful of their hospitality even with the most different of [our] kind. I hope greatest fortunes for the Federal Republic of Indonesia.
Yitzhak Rabin, Leader of the Israeli Government-In-Exile in New York City
Truthfully, these Israelis [specialists] are better teachers [for all of us]. They improve our efficiency and boost production substantially. Not only labour are more educated, they upstand a high ethic workforce, something we have lacked deeply for a long time. Despite their strict and impatient behaviour, we all see the benefit at the end of the journey.
Ishmail Syaiffudin*, the Head of Badan Meteorologi dan Geofisika, 1988
These (Jews) men had been very friendly to us. They honoured Madagascar’s warm welcome of their exile, with a return of a very accommodating manner to every Indonesian. Although some parts we may disagree, we respect them.
Amien Rais, the head of The Council of Preacher (Majelis Tabligh)
Btw does the pakistani goverment tolerated jews? Since ittl pakistan isnt as extreme and like close to iran which supports israelThe Elephant in the Room
The system of government the Indonesian provided had soothed the populace. The essence of a Singaporean decree the entire nation was truly a peculiar and special sensation. Yet, as the President was Javanese, the outrage hasn’t been quite so terrible. People still revered Subandrio as the leader of the state. Well, at least before the people understood the semi-presidential republic Indonesia has adopted.
The first cause of infighting came from the growing influx of Jewish immigrants that come to Madagascar since the 60s. The native Madagascar society had been the most receptive to the Israeli residents. As a result, when the Jewish State was erased from the map, Madagascar had been one of the Israeli’s main destinations of refugee. After the exodus after the destruction of the state, Israelis must move elsewhere. Some opted tenaciously to become insurgent groups to fight against the Palestinians, most others chose to move. Because of the friendliness, a large 35% has resolved to move to the island. Additionally, the Indonesian Then-President Nasution did not display any sentiments towards the Jews, the refugees hence flocked yonder.
Although the former PNI-R government has circumscribed Israeli’s entrance to Madagascar for a while, the PPP government completely opened it loosely for the island to enter. The PPP Factions explored the strategic benefits of Israelis into Indonesia. Not only they were technologically superior, but they also have a better skill set and thinking, beneficial for education in Indonesia. Subandrio needed the nation’s education to reform and improve fast, using these refugees was a unique coincidence. These men could become scholars, intellectuals and craftsmen of much of Indonesia’s most sophisticated industry. Before ascension to Presidency, Subandrio had personally proposed some of the intellectuals to universities so they would teach albeit in limited territories. In Malacca and Papua, these minds would start to teach young Indonesians with a return of higher payment than usual professors and security insurance. Shimshon Avraham Amitsur taught as a mathematician at Nanyang University for almost twenty years (1974-1992). Joel L. Sussman was the Head of Structural Chemistry in that same university.
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Shimshon Avraham Amitsur during a seminar program in Nanyang University, 1983
Under Premier LKY, the Jews were not considered as temporary citizens for benefit, but Indonesia’s obligation to assimilate them into the banner of the Republic. Rather than most Islamic politicians praying to the Jews to leave Madagascar as quickly as possible, Lee pushed for the radical approach to confront the most conservative of Islam with the Israeli’s progressive minds. In his reign, the Israel refugees must not dwell exclusively in Madagascar. An even distribution must be met to equalize the economic growth and the society’s cultural shift. That meant them arriving in even the far inland of Sumatra, Java and Sulawesi. As so, the Premier controversially promoted Jewish immigrants to major cities of Indonesia. The colleges were excited about these men, they provided more inquiry to young graduates and improve the education system as a whole. As a result, the media was catching the attention of these arriving settlers. although they had been arriving since 1980, the first even major news coverage of the coming immigrants was reported in late-1984. After that, many of the Indonesians were expressing opinions.
Inside the scholar’s realm, the Jewish was appraised deeply even to Islamic professors. The dynamics of cultural exchange was nearly perfect, Indonesians perceived the science field maturely, thus pushing the nation to a world stage. Young educated workers are delighted too, their fondness of these people was one of the reasons why Barisan Pemuda existed in the first place: to protect these people from the infuriation of the simple-minded rioters. The same could be said to every scientific or progressive organization in Indonesia. Those who believed in progress all accommodate the Jews as colleagues. Business and industry leaders also clapped them, they have brought efficiency towards production.
At the same time, the two highest religious bodies of Islam in Indonesia had two very similar reactions to the arrival of Jews in most parts of Nusantara. The modernist Muhammadiyah, naturally, announce more support for the Israeli people. As most of Muhammadiyah had become modernist thinking from the reform of K.H. Abdul Rozak Fachruddin. They invited for a cooperation-venture of scholars and intellectuals alike, combining information and knowledge to share progress. With most of Muhammadiyah adherents were well-educated scholars, they had been the first welcome of Israelis and the ones that had known them extremely well.
The Shafi’i traditionalist Nahdlatul Ulama(NU) was lacking concern. In the leader Abdurrahman Wahid interview about the rising Jews, an insouciant answer of ‘so be it was received from the mouth of the NU leader. Since the creation of the Parindra, the NU has accepted Pancasila as the Indonesian ideology and hoped to reconcile with a moderate approach of traditionalist Islamic schoolings. The Islamic pedagogy promotes interaction under the socio-cultural norms of Indonesia. These teachings included tolerance and acceptance of diversity, which made these Israelis accepted under the NU banner.
Both highest bodies that endorsed the immigrants angered a sum of preachers all across Indonesia. Especially those who sympathize themselves with any of the Middle East nations will think their Imam’s as unacceptable. Uneducated Indonesians that travelled to Saudi Arabia for hajj may have been influenced by Saudi’s anti-Semitism and radical thinking, these have been alarming especially after 1985.
Hizb ut-Tahrir Indonesia (HTI) massively expanded after they have used the momentum to garner support. From the people’s perspectives, HTI was the only organization sane enough to hate the Jews. Unfortunately, with a simple campaign and a still lack of critical-thinking citizens, HTI rocketed in support after the Jewish arrival to all parts of Indonesia. The use of fear and terror do really inflict the core of Indonesian’s nativism, a common trend that was already brewing in the Middle East. The defected NU Ustads, Imams or Ulamas that didn’t agree with the NU’s common objective all gathered under the HTI’s fold, campaigning for the expulsion of ‘invaders’.
The reactionary group initial attack happened on 15th September 1985 during an introduction lecture held by one Israeli professor in Institut Teknologi Bandung (ITB). A mob consisted of fifteen men charged inside the university building and arson the class, engulfing the building. Yehuda Amichai, the professor teaching, was lynched severely by the mob, enraging with the ‘Jew’. Although the professor can be saved timely from the bleeding wounds, the battle continued as the mob received the aggressive end of the fuming students. This wasn’t the only attacks that happened, moving on towards the year after, multiple occasions in Universities all across Java had received these imprudent motives.
Still, these attacks not proved to endanger the lives of the Israeli themselves, but the infightings that occur between native Indonesians. Middle-class citizens who afford to go to university all had a sounding agreement that these Jewish are not a threat to Indonesians' integrity and thus retain its Pancasila rights to have the freedom to live and work here. Those who don’t afford to go to schools, however, all resonate the same rhetoric that the Middle East has been giving; these people are terrorists and Islam should reject them as a mortal enemy.
After the HTI realized that the Indonesians are positively sympathetic with the Israelis, they launched a new campaign to ‘purify’ Islam in the region. This time going across towns, communities and villages that accepted ‘Western thinking’ was assaulted or abused harshly. It was quite easy for the organization in the countryside, as these villagers never met or encounter the Israelis in person, thus innocently agreed with the HTI’s fearful personality of the Jews. A small 2000 followers ended up with an insane 193000 before the Kismayo Crisis.
After the Kismayo Crisis and the LKY’s speech about the attacks, HTI immediately accused the Premier of ‘fabricating falsehood’ to the attacks that happened in Somalia. They insulted the government to falsify events to strengthen the Jews in Indonesia. Their circulated version of the Kismayo Crisis was the attacks were launched by the government itself, inveigle the Mujahedeen with the ‘slimy’ Indonesian. Despite the media completely uncalled the HTI’s blatant assumption, the populace thought the government’s chronology wasn’t coherent and engaging. The HTI’s campaign was slightly winning.
One of the influenced was Abdul Rahim Ba’asyir. Born in Mamuju, 1963, he attended the Madrasah school in his local city. After finish high school, he immediately sent to Jordan by his father in 1981. There he studied with the Jordanian priests that extremely hated the Jews. During the siege of Al-Quds, he was involved in a gunfight which fueled his hatred towards the Jews. He ached of the Indonesians soft stance towards the rising Jewish population. He blamed Premier LKY for this. Because of that, he tried to do something personally, and he committed it on August 15th 1986.
==================================== This is OTL National University of Singapore, not to be confused with Nanyang Technological University (NTU), a university form later in the 1980s.
 This is the ITTL son of Abu Bakar Ba'asyir, the OTL Jemaah Islamiyah responsible for Bali Bombings.
IOTL, Indonesia really hated the Jews and endorsed the Palestinians. However, ITTL as the Jews were ousted brutally from the Holy Land, the sentiment had not been quite severe. Moreover, looking at the split Suniism (UASR-socialism, Turkish-pseudo fascist 'Islamo-communism' and Saudi Arabia-Wahabbism), the Indonesians doesn't seem to fit in any thus searching for a distinct identity. The Kismayo Crisis only reaffirms the intentions to drift radically away from Saudi teachings (which had been so since the alignment with the US in the 60s). Other nations that endorsed the Israelis were Iranians ITTL, an irony looking at OTL Iran-Israeli relations.
Next up will be an interlude to the growing tensions of the Indochinese region, the Philippines' relation to Indonesia. The following post will cover what Ba'asyir is doing.
Maybe like the borobudur bombing?Ohh I got a bad feeling at the last paragraph mentioning “August 15th 1986” I’m betting that’s a terrorist attack. I also felt really impressed about this atl Indonesia are really welcoming the jews openly (even though with some people there seem still hating them) but still that’s really good.
Maybe like the borobudur bombing?
Btw does the pakistani goverment tolerated jews? Since ittl pakistan isnt as extreme and like close to iran which supports israel
Definitely worse especially with the 52 States becoming more diverse.What’s civil unrest and terrorism like in the USA? Will things get worse in the 90’s or so?
Domestic terrorism is growing, but the fear of foreign terrorism is growing faster.Taliking about america domestic terrorism will waco siege/ruby siege happen? And also if it did will timothy mcveigh still do the bomb stuff?
Well well we finally see cheney i hope you will touch on him more as he is quite interestingThe Fourth Indochina War
10th August 1986
From the rise of Indochinese nationalism during the Pacific War until now, the region was never under a tranquil session. War engulfed the place for almost anytime, few interregnum moments ceased aggression. However, should one summarize the condition of the region for the last 10 years, it was a perpetual war.
In Saigon, Johanes Petrus Louhanapessy stumbled himself under a precarious place of threatening war. Just weeks prior, the communist troops have ravaged the Western section of Saigon, looting shops and burning all the war across the place. They unleashed their best abilities to the Americans: the humiliation of security. The Americans were boiled by the sudden infiltration. Moreover, the livid President Nguyễn Văn Thiệu announced the total emergency of the government, arming every farmer with adequate military equipment.
The Indonesian interests in South Vietnam were entirely economical. However, the naivety of the old Subandrio never fathomed that economic benefits can only be fruitful if only three intertwine aspects of a nation fulfilled: security, stability and regulation. The first two were definitely non-existent here. No investors were appealing to discover wealth under a war-town nation, especially inside a brewing war. The Thiệu Regime was nothing stable as any dictatorship would do. Policy-making was usually personally oriented, conveying emotions and characters instead of the pragmatism for the progressive path of the nation. Still, the presidency was highly grateful for the SEATO, Spratly and the EAC for the economic benefits they received for the past 5 years albeit the EAC were opting to suspend the nation for lack of insured investments.
Ambassador Johanes expressed a similar sympathy towards any pro-War faction that was rising in Indonesia. If any example needed to covey how quick decisive war can solve the problems; here should be the perfect one. Already ravaged for almost thirty years without any substantial progress, Indochina had been stagnated for wars and aggressions. This current Indochinese War, the 4th one, had erupted in every part of Indochina, carrying the name precisely suited unlike the former three. Had there a quick summary of the counting Wars, a rolling snowball was a flawless analogy.
“Ambassador, when do you think this will be over?”
The ambassador was drifting away to home when Lieutenant Colonel Susilo asked him. He staggered and attempted to ask, but the gentleman shrugged it off. The background noise of small bajaj clattered across the room. The Marine Commander was stationed in South Vietnam for military advisors and educational purposes. While we, Indonesia, can brainstorm ideas for South Vietnam and America to use, the Americans and the Vietnamese can bring valuable strategies for the national fighting prowess. While the young commander Aryo had returned home, his boss stayed here for the rest of the year.
“I don’t know, Colonel. I perceive that this war is just starting. “Johanes answered after he flashed of what Susilo had said. The Americans were swelling in numbers here. Yet, the Challenger Crash in May had caused the deep fallout of the technocratic government. The Democrats Left was hostile to change the space budget for health expenditure, while the Conservatives unanimously agree to transfer the space budget for defence spending. Glenn’s promise had been winning to Mars as a great feat of the brewing Cold War. However, the fallout from the cause of the Challenger Crash was riveting for all American taxpayers to grant the government more money to NASA.
The destabilization of the American Military Empire rippled towards the Marine Corps presence in South Vietnam. The intended upgraded military equipment was cancelled from the budget reorganization in July. Weirdly enough, the political consensus that the bipartisanism agreement achieved was formulating a draft lottery procedure for young Americans to go to South Vietnam. The Ambassador was completely perplexed in how or why the agreement can be as such. Nevertheless, the Americans now seemed to propel more bodies than bombs to Indochina.
A similar confusion can be noticed from Susilo. The ‘Operation Delta Thrust’, an obvious catchphrase for the advancement from the Mekong, was becoming a full-front assault commanded by Washington. He sensed President Glenn’s frustration to finish the war as soon as possible, but that short-sighted vent would give more men to die in the banks. The Indonesians were still partly rigid for the adaptiveness during the 2nd Indochina War, let alone the Americans now. Their best hope was to burn the jungles to hell so no Viet Cong would hide between the trees. Hopefully, the bombs they had sent here was enough.
General Paul X. Kelley had to devise a cautious manner towards the bold attempt the Joint-American forces had tried just months before. The American forces have arrived in Chhlong and were three months away from securing Pakse, their intended target. However, the change across the expense, strategy and political situation in Washington forced the Marines to stop at Chhlong and progressed inland. Fortunately, Phnom Penh has been liberated and the Cambodian Emergency Government was established under Prum Neakareach.
From the military perspective, Lieutenant Colonel Susilo had heard irritation from the Pentagon. Much of the Generals are begging for a big blow once and for all, but the government’s political turmoil has turned the tides almost against the general. Despite extensive efforts to be apolitical inside the army, the General has been favourable to the Conservative Party. A Wyoming Congressman Cheney had been the advocate for the military, which make him a very popular representative in Pentagon. Still, much of the efforts are futile, the Democrats were going pacifism, this Vietnam fiasco would go badly.
His native nation also had this kind of pacifism growing. Yet, the Kismayo Crisis had solved it, gaining much of the people’s wrath to defend the nation against radicals. Still, the strategy was as such: defence. There had been no initiative or even signals that the military can intervene on our Vietnamese allies. Unless the Parliament solved their growing chasm, anything would be stopped under the weird political drama in Jakarta.
“Ambassador,” Susilo questioned, “If South Vietnam became too unsafe for diplomatic duties, where would you go?” It was a mundane question to ask such deep analysis, but for him, it was worth a shot under the chaos the jungles might have brought for the rest of his stay.
“Becoming a teacher, perhaps. My alma mater was lacking political professors, a simple lecture wouldn’t harm, would it?” The Ambassador was really looking to return home. Not that he disliked the job, it was that he had seen enough mess in Vietnam that he thought retiring was good.
Prelude of the 1986 Philippines Election
11th August 1986
Manila, the Philippines
Vice President Raul Manglapus rubbed his forehead from the reformed trade agreement offered by Japan. The 576-page deal consisted of many trade benefits from Japan that encompassed as part of the new EAC initiative. The trade initiative involved further transaction of goods, capitals and bonds to the Philippines by the Japanese companies. The people here, ascertain of their predicament, couldn't bear for another reform. Investments in Luzon Area to form a financial city did attract the Japanese hunger for new potent returns. Also, the Metro Manila was offered to the Japanese to construct, which also disappointed several local enthusiasts.
Aquilino swore in Manila that the ‘imperialistic Japan’ will be curbed by his presidency. The EAC had become the party’s battle cry for the nation’s higher discrepancy and inequality. Ferdinand Marcos and Benigno Aquino seemed to advocate the business strategy more than the people. That populist propaganda would hamper Raul’s ascendance towards the Presidency. However, the 1979 Constitution disallowed more term for President Aquino to run. His days were numbered until October. The problem that erupted was the incumbent failing to rerun could be the victory Aquilino Quilinging Pimentel Jr. needed.
Indeed, the new trade agreement would aggravate the populace to further agree on Aquilino. Japanese insurance of investing in the Luzon Area will provoke a false statement to the citizens. Anti-Japanese sentiment had been rising in the Philippines because of the high Japanese presence without much change in the society. Unlike Subandrio’s Indonesia, where education and basic welfare had been the bane of love for the people, the Philippines government response was improving the Luzon cities with lavish metros. The countryside was turning to Aquilino, securing his voters in Minandao, parts of Visayas and Palawan. Young nationalist city voters would also vote for Aquilino, they despised foreign contractors. They all insulted the government for not becoming like Indonesia which had MRT Indonesia Corporation. The Vice President then almost wanted to knock the reporters over and said that the said corporation also had a joint partnership with the Japanese. The money even came from the Americans, it was not natively Indonesian.
The Moro National Liberation front had still resented President Aquino’s rejection for Autonomous Region. Aquino stated that increase autonomy would only disintegrate the nation further, crippling the federal power towards the nation. In his promise, Raul Manglapus already guaranteed the Moros for autonomy, he wished those votes for September.
In EAC, SEATO or Spratly League, the Philippines was always the junior partner despite the second-largest archipelago nation and a population of almost 60 million. Looking North, Korea and Taiwan were catching up exceedingly fast to Japan’s economic might as the biggest power in East Asia. Looking South, Indonesia’s was running for becoming the successor of Japan: a mighty economy with a decent population. Since the beginning, the Philippines was already outpaced, all of it partly blamed on the nation’s mess on bureaucracy. As a result, with the growing populace angst of the Japanese influence, the government could only resort to the same statement: The Philippines are not ready enough. That was the issue, Aquilino stated that the Philippines was ready. That provoked en masse of his ascension of popularity, possibly winning in 1986.
Furthermore, Raul’s concern for Aquilino’s rise may contribute to another danger of the Philippines. If the Philippines decided to destroy Japanese ties, where to go? The United States? His anti-imperialist rant would only kill any chances. Indonesia was our best bet, but it seemed Aquilino's presidency would not revolve around it. His campaign was lacking the direction of a huge Malayan Union, as the Party Mas Malaking Pagkakaisa stated.
Raul’s hesitance finally resolves into a single shred of fear. Aquilino was reaching the Chinese. He would not allow it, even under his life. The Communist insurgency was still happening in the East; he’s not certainly giving the communist a friendlier picture? Raul sighed in disbelief. The South Vietnamese was thanking us for the troops we aided to the region. Aquilino’s Philippines may start the withdraw of those troops, weakening South Vietnam further into dismay. What’s next? EAC exit? SEATO and Spratly exit? The Indonesians were quite friendly with us, they won’t after this happened.
================================Louhanapessy is also OTL Indonesian Ambassador to Vietnam. Yes, Susilo as in ITTL Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono and Cheney as in Dick Cheney. ITTL SBY was a Marine commander.
The South Vietnamese and Philippines background can be seen here and here. That covered the presidents along the way.
The first part touched the Viet Cong still an outstanding achievement of infiltrating the United States. The second part was the Philippines perspective of the EAC and all the economic pacts they've involved.
South Vietnam is a presidential republic similar to Indonesia except for no election due to the nation's junta. The Philippines current constitution resorted to 1935 limits for the Presidential term (6 years-1 terms).
After the promise of the next post made by me yesterday, the further chapters would solely circle the happenings after.