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I honestly don't know about Kelly Heroes film location ITTL.

1. Pakistan become a more moderate nation, and I guess extremists is not as problematic as OTL. However, we would see more Anarchist ITTL due to large red nations.

2. This is a tricky one, and I think is quite good. Bangladesh still suffered Pakistani's Bengal discrimination like OTL. However, it was funded by not the Indians, but by Thailand in the 70s for part of its alliance expansion. However, since Thailand is joining up with China, Bangladesh is allying its former overlord because India is threathening them.

3. The British Empire liberate Sri Lanka during the African Implosion, as part of abandoning all ruckus. Sri Lanka now teeters between Indian sphere and Indo-American influence.

Scandinavian countries become German allies of EEZ, which was supposedly economic alliance, but there are military involvements.

I actually don't know what Hejaz are you talking about. If it's Transjordan, it is incorporated into UASR.
 
I honestly don't know about Kelly Heroes film location ITTL.

1. Pakistan become a more moderate nation, and I guess extremists is not as problematic as OTL. However, we would see more Anarchist ITTL due to large red nations.

2. This is a tricky one, and I think is quite good. Bangladesh still suffered Pakistani's Bengal discrimination like OTL. However, it was funded by not the Indians, but by Thailand in the 70s for part of its alliance expansion. However, since Thailand is joining up with China, Bangladesh is allying its former overlord because India is threathening them.

3. The British Empire liberate Sri Lanka during the African Implosion, as part of abandoning all ruckus. Sri Lanka now teeters between Indian sphere and Indo-American influence.


Scandinavian countries become German allies of EEZ, which was supposedly economic alliance, but there are military involvements.

I actually don't know what Hejaz are you talking about. If it's Transjordan, it is incorporated into UASR.
Do pakistan since being moderate still retain it's nuclear weapon (like they did otl) and do their economy amd living standard improve significantly since pakistan is more moderate (so does this mean pakistan being suplied heavily by the western power) and what is the relationship between pakistan and it's former master the uk.

On sidenote maybe you can make albania become the location for kelly heroes ( thus making enver hoxha doesnt look too communistic and perhaps making the tourism to albania increased) and oh on the topic of albania what happen to kosovo?
 
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I honestly don't know about Kelly Heroes film location ITTL.

1. Pakistan become a more moderate nation, and I guess extremists is not as problematic as OTL. However, we would see more Anarchist ITTL due to large red nations.

2. This is a tricky one, and I think is quite good. Bangladesh still suffered Pakistani's Bengal discrimination like OTL. However, it was funded by not the Indians, but by Thailand in the 70s for part of its alliance expansion. However, since Thailand is joining up with China, Bangladesh is allying its former overlord because India is threathening them.

3. The British Empire liberate Sri Lanka during the African Implosion, as part of abandoning all ruckus. Sri Lanka now teeters between Indian sphere and Indo-American influence.


Scandinavian countries become German allies of EEZ, which was supposedly economic alliance, but there are military involvements.

I actually don't know what Hejaz are you talking about. If it's Transjordan, it is incorporated into UASR.
So do this mean that scandinavian country become the allies of the american (since being a german allies) and oh im talking about the 1916-1925 kindom of hejaz (which contain the city mecca amd medina) and also since we are talking about holy cities what is the vatican stances on all of this

On the topic of sri lanka will they be engulfed in their civil war with tamil tiger like they did otl?
 
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The Triumvirate Part 7
29th March 1978
Presidential Palace, Jakarta

Only two weeks before the election, and Nasution finally noticed the devastation of his loss. He wanted things to revert, change some bits here and there. However, it was too late.

The 1973 Constitution is originally a Parliamentary System. Presidents would become head of state, but that’s it. President is the national icon, but most of the work is given to Premier and the DPR. However, Nasution’s power altered the Constitution as more of a semi-Presidential System, giving President at least the foreign policies. Nasution tried for more influence, changing back into the Presidential Republic, but the people said otherwise.

Unlike the 1945-generation, the 1965-generation did not want a strong unilateral figure as the one in power. Centuries of colonialism has proven that strong icons led to dependency, once the leader is dead, the entirety of the followers is. It was extremely troubling during the Independence Era, of what happened if Sukarno had died. World history also strengthened the fact that most vigorous world leaders, at their most absolute of power, only follow with total disintegration of their followers. Genghis Khan, Napoleon, and controversially Hitler, once the leader is dead, the nation is dead.

The 1965-generation followed similar thinking with the Soviet Union’s political system – let the party became the figure. The party becomes an icon resembling the thought. The absolutism of man dies when the man dies, but in parties, it was an idea. The idea will linger as long as time could not decay. Therefore, the idea for most 1965-generation politicians is not about having a physical symbol to follow, but a long-lasting notion of thoughts. And that was how the politics of Indonesia is changing.

The election had not become a choice between Subandrio or Nasution but between PNI-R or PPP. Looking at the individual’s perspective, Nasution is slightly better than Subandrio. His dashing military figure helped him to become a decent head of the nation, and his intelligence is also cunning. Unlike Subandrio, who was slightly slow-paced, Nasution is apt with foreign diplomacy. The fact that the United States still liked Indonesia although France’s oil wells are also in Indonesia is one obvious one. The other was how Madagascar annexation is not condemned by the United Nations itself.

But, the people will not vote for Nasution, they will vote on the parties. That alone, digressed Nasution’s thoughts of winning the election. The PNI-R is a flawed party from within, completely obnoxious of its victories that one by one, the highest party members is involved with corruption and foreign gratifications. PPP was also partly involved, but not as extended as PNI-R itself. Moreover, PNI-R is involved with foreign corporations, most of which clashed with locals during their construction projects. In Java, PNI-R may rule. But everywhere else, PNI-R is a bully and a foreign-licker.

Nasution read his daily newspaper, which was trending about polls regarding who is likely to win. The polls informed that in Western parts of Proper-Indonesia, mostly Sundaland islands, the populous is mixed between PKI, PPP and PNI-R. ECF is now expanding to Sulawesi, probably because PPP’s Makassar stronghold is ruined because of the latest riot about Makassar’s farming dispute. Economy Minister Trihandoko urged that southern part of Sulawesi to start producing flour, but the locals persisted otherwise, only to increase sago production. The government retaliated with leaving Makassar for lack of corporation and instead move North to Palu, where the locals are much more cooperative. Therefore, Northern parts are much more developed and funded by the government, but the South doesn’t.

In Papua and Melanesia, it was completely PNI-R domination. But that domination was nothing comparing to Madagascar’s PSDM-PPP Union. The polls concluded with PNI-R at 30%, while the PPP is at 40%.

Nasution thought of retaining his seat, he involved more in foreign relations, putting Indonesia in minor attention to the world, rather than the previous pariah state. Still, his actions are mostly contradicting party’s demands. Most of the Nationalist Factions demanded Nasution of more prestigious projects and monuments. The Golkar Faction wanted more foreign investors. The Purple Faction wanted more funds in their scientific researches. The Ulamas are the only ones not demanding, but they are minors comparing to the first three.

He just slumped into his office seat, maybe the 80s is not PNI-R decade.

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Geneva, Switzerland

Adam Malik had just another messy day. In the United Nation, Saar is getting another attention, as there are leaks of French force-assimilation. Annexed by France in the 1960s, Saar was just one tool for appeasing the French right-wings, only to backfire as one of the most troublesome cases for the Hexagon Nation. Germany, as usual, is promoting this to the international stage, demanding that rightful German clay be back.

In Germany, there is a slight disturbance also. The current monarch, Otto von Hapsburg, is trying to reshape Germany’s dark past as a means for a brighter future. It seemed fine initially until the king said that Germany has objectives in Czechoslovakia and Poland. Although Germany is renouncing Silesia, the monarch is claiming Bohemia parts of Czechoslovakia. The first one is personal, the other was petty – make the borders pretty. The kingdom, fortunately, did not claim the Moravian regions. Germany also upgraded EEC as a military alliance. Called now the European Alliance (EA), the

This confrontation is directly aimed towards the Soviet Union, who is slightly weakened after Poland’s fiasco. General Secretary Andropov is also occupied with Yugoslavia’s intrusion in most Balkan Satellites, waning Russian influence in favour for the Yugoslavians. In Caucasia, Azerbaijan is rebelling under the funds from the United States and Iran.

In Italy, the lengthy reign of the socialist party in the political shifts the Republic more pro-France. However, Germany tries to counter this by funding pro-liberal parties. In Spain, Luis Carrero Blanco replaced Francisco Franco upon his death. He pushed for a slow transition towards democracy, but before that he invited the UK and Portugal for an Atlantic pact. They felt threatened by France and was not accepted in the EA. The United Kingdom and Portugal unanimously accepted as neither of them has decent alliances, especially from greater powers.

Adam Malik has just started wondering what are the Chinese up to, his assistant calls him.

“Sir, we have just received news from China. Chairman Mao is dead.”

“Oh dear," Adam Malik thought, "this will be rough.”

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Jakarta, Indonesia

As one of the millions who worked in textile manufacture. Subagio is surprised that he and a number of his workmates were transferred to a newer chemical factory outside of Bekasi. Although he lives currently in Cengkareng, his employer has promised him of an electrified house in Bekasi, which he delightfully accepts. Outside Ring 1, most of the homes are not connected to the grid. There was a distinctive border, the Flood Canal, as the division between electricity and not. The government is prioritizing the rural to have access but neglected the city. Subagio sees that it was a good idea, as most of his coworkers that formerly in Jakarta, moved to their hometowns as farmers again. In some cases, lucky coworkers can found decent cloth or meat manufactures in their villages.

Subagio, today, received a payment of Rp 20 for food. It was a daily grant, and he was not complaining. 20 is enough for a living expense of he, his wife, and his three children. Well, he may need to tighten up on rice consumption, but it was fine actually. The problem was the cost of milk. He owned a three-months-old daughter who needed milk. But a litre of milk is worth staggeringly Rp 10, half of his payment. Fortunately, other commodities, like rice and tofu, is cheap.

Subagio oldest son, now nearly ten, has finally come home from playing with his friends. Being one of the thousands who studied at 87 State School, Budi received free primary education from Subandrio’s Act. Subagio never ceased to thank him by that. His second child, Hilmi, is also granted free education as she just started school.

Subagio lives near the swamps of Kapuk, and encountered monkeys and snakes. But, his greatest worry was the new freight-rail track. Seeing oil cost has risen a bit, the government is planning of a specific freight rail track from Cengkareng to Tanjung Priok. He was rumoured that his neighbourhood would be moved as they wanted to build a freight station here.

He still thinking about the freight rail when his wife called him from the outside. For Subagio, it seems that the monkeys are littering his house, again.

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The final chapter before the election. And Malik's cliffhanger would be answered.
 
Pakistan is allying Iran for being the only friendly neighbour. As also friendly to the US, Pakistan refrain for making the weapon. Pakistan's economy is slightly better than OTL 1970s, and most of the population is united (no Baluchistan or Pashtun rebels) because of the threat in North, South and East.

I guess so. Kelly Heroes maybe was filmed in Albania and partly Greece. Kosovo still remains an autonomous region of Yugoslavia.

Yes, Scandinavia is currently allies of America. Hejaz is no more, but Saudi Arabia occupies the land. Vatican? Probably trying to go as far away against politics.

Sri Lanka is peaceful, currently...
 
Oh this is a very interesting update with germany and france being once again became rival and about spain will they return to monarchy?

Since you mentioned rail will the bintaro tragedy still occur and will this affect the indonesian railway as a whole?

And also what is the major indonesian airline ittl?
 
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Pakistan is allying Iran for being the only friendly neighbour. As also friendly to the US, Pakistan refrain for making the weapon. Pakistan's economy is slightly better than OTL 1970s, and most of the population is united (no Baluchistan or Pashtun rebels) because of the threat in North, South and East.

I guess so. Kelly Heroes maybe was filmed in Albania and partly Greece. Kosovo still remains an autonomous region of Yugoslavia.


Yes, Scandinavia is currently allies of America. Hejaz is no more, but Saudi Arabia occupies the land. Vatican? Probably trying to go as far away against politics.

Sri Lanka is peaceful, currently...
A trouble is brewing up i see

On another note i have several question
1.with like this allience that the german created do the american still retain a militarybpresence in europe?
2.what side does the italian choose since italy is wedged by 4 powers (the spaniards and the french in the west,the german and her allies in the nortg,the commie in the east and libya in south)
3.what is happening with chad ittl?
 
France's shifting towards Thorezian communism solidify the Francoist regime for Spain. Therefore, when Franco died, Blanco just become his successor. But, unlike Franco, Blanco is transitioning Spain towards democracy, but just very slowly. I guess Spain, after its democratic transition, would return to monarchy.

Bintaro Tragedy is in 1987, we're still in 1978, just look at more recent things first.

On a larger perspective, nearly all Indonesian airlines, like Garuda Indonesia, Merpati Air, Bali Air and similar parallelism like Cendrawasih Air (Sempati Air OTL) or Papua Air (Mandala Air OTL) is expanding. There is also Air Madagascar, but mostly the national ones is Garuda Indonesia.

1. Still, because Germany still has inadequate military to repel immediate French invasion, let alone the Soviets. Therefore, most of former-NATO US personnel still stays in Germany.
2. That's still a hard one.
3. I guess so far still no Toyota War atm, butterflies.
 
France's shifting towards Thorezian communism solidify the Francoist regime for Spain. Therefore, when Franco died, Blanco just become his successor. But, unlike Franco, Blanco is transitioning Spain towards democracy, but just very slowly. I guess Spain, after its democratic transition, would return to monarchy.

Bintaro Tragedy is in 1987, we're still in 1978, just look at more recent things first.

On a larger perspective, nearly all Indonesian airlines, like Garuda Indonesia, Merpati Air, Bali Air and similar parallelism like Cendrawasih Air (Sempati Air OTL) or Papua Air (Mandala Air OTL) is expanding. There is also Air Madagascar, but mostly the national ones is Garuda Indonesia.



1. Still, because Germany still has inadequate military to repel immediate French invasion, let alone the Soviets. Therefore, most of former-NATO US personnel still stays in Germany.
2. That's still a hard one.
3. I guess so far still no Toyota War atm, butterflies.
Ah sorry when rail comes up bintaro immidietly came to my mind but about the airline do garuda still a state owned company or a private one?

It will be an interesting for spain and in africa what happenned to the equtorial guinea? Do they became an integral part of spain? (The histpry of equtorial guinea is very interesting)
 
France's shifting towards Thorezian communism solidify the Francoist regime for Spain. Therefore, when Franco died, Blanco just become his successor. But, unlike Franco, Blanco is transitioning Spain towards democracy, but just very slowly. I guess Spain, after its democratic transition, would return to monarchy.

Bintaro Tragedy is in 1987, we're still in 1978, just look at more recent things first.

On a larger perspective, nearly all Indonesian airlines, like Garuda Indonesia, Merpati Air, Bali Air and similar parallelism like Cendrawasih Air (Sempati Air OTL) or Papua Air (Mandala Air OTL) is expanding. There is also Air Madagascar, but mostly the national ones is Garuda Indonesia.



1. Still, because Germany still has inadequate military to repel immediate French invasion, let alone the Soviets. Therefore, most of former-NATO US personnel still stays in Germany.
2. That's still a hard one.
3. I guess so far still no Toyota War atm, butterflies.
What kind of goverment that italy has to be honest
 
The Triumvirate Part 8: 1978 Election
1978 Election
People's Representative Council of Indonesia (Dewan Perwakilan Rakyat Indonesia)
DPR 1978 (1).png

555 Seats

Partai Nasional Indonesia Raya (National Party of [Greater] Indonesia) - 172 seats - 30.99%
  • Fraksi Nasionalis (Nationalist Faction) - 45 seats
  • Fraksi Golkar (Military Faction) - 71 seats
  • Fraksi Ungu (Purple Faction) - 31 seats
  • Fraksi NU (NU Faction) - 25 seats

Partai Persatuan Pembangunan (Progressive Union Party) - 205 seats - 36.94%
  • Fraksi Hatta (Hatta Faction) - 79 seats
  • Fraksi Malaya (Malayan Faction) - 105 seats
  • Fraksi Madagascar (Madagascar Faction) - 21 seats

Partai Komunis Indonesia (Indonesian Communist Party) - 139 seats - 25,05%
  • Fraksi Untung (Untung Faction) - 69 seats
  • Fraksi Pro-Cina (Pro-China Faction) - 43 seats
  • Fraksi Pro-Uni Soviet (Pro-Soviet Faction) - 27 seats

Partai Umat Islam (Islam People's Party) - 15 seats - 2,70%

Barisan Koalisi Daerah Timur (Eastern Coalition Front) - 20 seats - 3,60%

Melanesian Alliance Party (Partai Aliansi Melanesia) - 4 seats - 0,72%


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People's Regional Council of Indonesia (Dewan Perwakilan Daerah Indonesia)
DPD 1978.png

114 Seats

Partai Nasional Indonesia Raya (National Party of [Greater] Indonesia) - 38 seats - 33.33%
  • Fraksi Nasionalis (Nationalist Faction) - 10 seats
  • Fraksi Golkar (Military Faction) - 12 seats
  • Fraksi Ungu (Purple Faction) - 12 seats
  • Fraksi NU (NU Faction) - 4 seats

Partai Persatuan Pembangunan (Progressive Union Party) - 40 seats - 35.09%
  • Fraksi Hatta (Hatta Faction) - 15 seats
  • Fraksi Malaya (Malayan Faction) - 18 seats
  • Fraksi Madagascar (Madagascar Faction) - 7 seats

Partai Komunis Indonesia (Indonesian Communist Party) - 23 seats - 20,18%
  • Fraksi Untung (Untung Faction) - 13 seats
  • Fraksi Pro-Cina (Pro-China Faction) - 7 seats
  • Fraksi Pro-Uni Soviet (Pro-Soviet Faction) - 3 seats

Partai Umat Islam (Islam People's Party) - 8 seats - 7,02%

Barisan Koalisi Daerah Timur (Eastern Coalition Front) - 3 seats - 2,63%

Melanesian Alliance Party (Partai Aliansi Melanesia) - 2 seats - 1,75%


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Presidential Election 1978
Nasution - 48,52 %
Subandrio - 51,48 %
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1978 marked the first change inside the dynamic First Party System. For nearly 33 years, nationalist politicians had ruled Indonesia. From the legendary PNI to the newer PNI-R, the government was mostly a right-wing one, teeter between country-nationalism and race-nationalism. The slow drift towards the right also caused Javanization and Javacentrism. Alas, the reign is officially ended in this election.

Surprisingly, even though how slanted PNI-R has become, the percentage they received still remains high. But, the PPP holds the leaderboard. Climbing as the first party, PPP has a decent 37% percentage, while the PNI-R acclaims 31%. Before coming to minor parties, PKI has a 25% of the seat, rising than before. The others are BKDT, PUI and Melanesia Party in descending order. PPP and PKI reformed their alliance, so the DPR is theirs.

The distribution is fairly reasonable. In Malaysia and Madagascar, almost everyone votes for PPP, while there are small pockets of PNI-R here and there. In Sumatra, only Aceh votes for PUI, while the rest is a solid PNI-R. In Borneo, the populous is split between PPP and PNI-R, PPP holds North and West, while PNI-R holds East and South. In Sulawesi, North and South were split between PPP and PKI respectively. In Papua, Maluku and Melanesia, PNI-R holds strongly while Melanesia Party and BKDT still several seats. The DPD threshold was quite similar to the DPR ones, the difference was that the PUI actually attains more seats than usual, even holding several Pasundan's key seats. PNI-R also neck-to-neck with PPP, the only difference is a slight percentage. But anywhere else is quite similar to DPR's results.

The legislative election is PPP-PKI win, and LKY immediate ascended into Premiership. And then, the presidential followed suit. Different than the legislative election, the Presidential one is perplexing, as not only regions are not valid into judgement, but also how balanced the vote is. Almost nearly 50-50, Subandrio wins the Presidency in a slim 2 % from Nasution.

A long story short, Subandrio would be inaugurated in October as president, and LKY as Premier. They would determine Indonesia’s history for the next five years.

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3rd August 1978

Tokyo, Japan

Foreign Minister Suharto is angry about Nasution’s loss in the election. The PPP, although not majorly, has swept PNI-R off the government, and in October, they will take over the government. Nasution thought that he was certain that the Presidency is theirs, him lobbying with influential local figures were not helping, as Subandrio has now won.

Suharto also found a new flaw on the Constitution, which was the three-month gap on Legislative and Executive Election. Legislative Elections is held of every April on 5 years, while Presidential Elections on July. The three-month gap was very ineffective and time-consuming, especially as Indonesia is technically a semi-presidential Republic, not a Parliamentary one. Moreover, the domestic ran first, then the Presidency. So, when in May the Legislative Results had come up, the PPP establish a ‘shadow government’ – controlling most parts of the domestic sector, even though PNI-R is still the government.

Indeed, PPP was already the leader for domestic policies for the last five years, but their controlling tendency reaches out towards foreign policies, including Suharto’s occupation. As PKI is also the elected-government, Suharto was informed by Subandrio that he must not jeopardize any relations harming with socialist states, and that includes China. Suharto just groaned on that matter, but cannot disobey. Suharto even irritates harder when he discovers the situation in China.

In 28th March 1978, Chinese officials reported the official death of Mao Ze Dong. Dies from a heart attack, the medical aid was too late for the ruler. The government held a public farewell on the hero, the man who built Communist China as it is now. Mao was a better communist leader, better than Stalin or Thorez. Balancing authority and rotation of power, Mao has created the People’s Republic of China from a small pariah near Shanxi to an agriculture power, even surpassing the Soviet Union’s records.

Mao’s death leaves the state in early industrialization. In 1975, Mao has ordered that agriculture was good enough for China to continue of the next stage of growth. Rice productions were at an all-time high, even enough for distributing to all of East Asia. For the first time, the abundance of rice in China made their population not starving, and increase rapidly. Economically, Mao’s reign was the pinnacle for China’s entrance to an economic powerhouse.

Politically though, Mao was surrounded by his cronies. Called the Gang of Four, the members criticized Mao’s lack of authority for eradicating all traitors and non-believers of Mao. The group consists of Jiang Qing, Zhang Chun Qiao, Yao Wen Yuan and Wang Huo Wen. After the death of Mao, there was a power vacuum in the political leadership of the party, and immediately Gang of Four takeovers.

Just only months ruling, Jiang Qing announced that a ‘Cultural Revolution’ must be established, erasing all anti-revolutionaries. Suharto at first was delighted about the news, these figures were destabilizing their nation. However, Suharto’s concern was Jiang Qing’s realignment to the Soviet Union, which Suharto definitely doesn’t want. China has shifted India to becoming a pro-communist nation, joining with the Soviets? It would be a disaster.

Certainly, France doesn’t want to lose her ally, from Lin Biao and Deng Xiao Ping, these pro-French officials conduct battles against the Gang of Four, and the battle has begun.

Suharto is trying to contact Japan for a possible alliance. Now or later, China would grow far beyond the United States’ capacity. Indonesia and Japan must prepare themselves for the inevitable.

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Casablanca, French Fifth Republic

Conservative Representative Ronald Reagan is visiting this part of the French colony for détente purposes. Joining with other Democrats for possible friendship. Ronald Reagan deeply knows that his arrival to this wonderful African region was not for France, but for Moroccan separatist groups. President Jimmy Carter has given the green light for Operation Shadow War, which was essentially fighting rivals from within. Although in the front, Carter is pro-peace, philanthropists. The inside is more complicated.

Ronald Reagan is fighting for the presidential nominee of the Conservative Party, but meet up with his rival Barry Goldwater. Barry Goldwater is pro-segregationist and was endorsed by Nixon and Thurmond. Meanwhile, Reagan is pro-business, but rather not discuss segregation. After Nixon’s abrupt first term, the United States is trending towards more equality. In Carter’s presidency, even the hippies are no longer a movement, as most of their key demands are fulfilled by the Democrat President.

However distant Reagan is with Carter in terms of domestic policy, both of them agreed on America’s supremacy. America has emerged as the global superpower since WW2, and both figures hope that would remain long. The difference was Carter go with a more discreet attitude, where Reagan would just go stand-off like the Old Wild West.

In his acting career, he was patronized by fellow colleagues from his workforce. Notable actors from Hollywood even endorsed him on his Conservative Nomination, but fail because of Nixon’s one last attempt on becoming President in 1976, therefore Ronald Reagan as Vice President. Even Star Wars actors, like Mark Hamill and Harrison Ford, become great young friends for Reagan to converse.

He is distracted by his companions, saying that King Hassan II of Morocco has arrived.
 
Ah sorry when rail comes up bintaro immidietly came to my mind but about the airline do garuda still a state owned company or a private one?

It will be an interesting for spain and in africa what happenned to the equtorial guinea? Do they became an integral part of spain? (The histpry of equtorial guinea is very interesting)
Garuda is state-owned, especially on Trihandoko's watch.

Spain I guess continue French's no decolonization policies, and instead it is trying to put Equatorial Guinea as an integral part of Spain.

What kind of goverment that italy has to be honest
Italy is still a Republic, now currently under Socialist Party rule.
 
1978 Election
People's Representative Council of Indonesia (Dewan Perwakilan Rakyat Indonesia)
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555 Seats

Partai Nasional Indonesia Raya (National Party of [Greater] Indonesia) - 172 seats - 30.99%
  • Fraksi Nasionalis (Nationalist Faction) - 45 seats
  • Fraksi Golkar (Military Faction) - 71 seats
  • Fraksi Ungu (Purple Faction) - 31 seats
  • Fraksi NU (NU Faction) - 25 seats

Partai Persatuan Pembangunan (Progressive Union Party) - 205 seats - 36.94%
  • Fraksi Hatta (Hatta Faction) - 79 seats
  • Fraksi Malaya (Malayan Faction) - 105 seats
  • Fraksi Madagascar (Madagascar Faction) - 21 seats

Partai Komunis Indonesia (Indonesian Communist Party) - 139 seats - 25,05%
  • Fraksi Untung (Untung Faction) - 69 seats
  • Fraksi Pro-Cina (Pro-China Faction) - 43 seats
  • Fraksi Pro-Uni Soviet (Pro-Soviet Faction) - 27 seats

Partai Umat Islam (Islam People's Party) - 15 seats - 2,70%

Barisan Koalisi Daerah Timur (Eastern Coalition Front) - 20 seats - 3,60%

Melanesian Alliance Party (Partai Aliansi Melanesia) - 4 seats - 0,72%


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People's Regional Council of Indonesia (Dewan Perwakilan Daerah Indonesia)
View attachment 560047
114 Seats

Partai Nasional Indonesia Raya (National Party of [Greater] Indonesia) - 38 seats - 33.33%
  • Fraksi Nasionalis (Nationalist Faction) - 10 seats
  • Fraksi Golkar (Military Faction) - 12 seats
  • Fraksi Ungu (Purple Faction) - 12 seats
  • Fraksi NU (NU Faction) - 4 seats

Partai Persatuan Pembangunan (Progressive Union Party) - 40 seats - 35.09%
  • Fraksi Hatta (Hatta Faction) - 15 seats
  • Fraksi Malaya (Malayan Faction) - 18 seats
  • Fraksi Madagascar (Madagascar Faction) - 7 seats

Partai Komunis Indonesia (Indonesian Communist Party) - 23 seats - 20,18%
  • Fraksi Untung (Untung Faction) - 13 seats
  • Fraksi Pro-Cina (Pro-China Faction) - 7 seats
  • Fraksi Pro-Uni Soviet (Pro-Soviet Faction) - 3 seats

Partai Umat Islam (Islam People's Party) - 8 seats - 7,02%

Barisan Koalisi Daerah Timur (Eastern Coalition Front) - 3 seats - 2,63%

Melanesian Alliance Party (Partai Aliansi Melanesia) - 2 seats - 1,75%


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Presidential Election 1978
Nasution - 48,52 %
Subandrio - 51,48 %
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1978 marked the first change inside the dynamic First Party System. For nearly 33 years, nationalist politicians had ruled Indonesia. From the legendary PNI to the newer PNI-R, the government was mostly a right-wing one, teeter between country-nationalism and race-nationalism. The slow drift towards the right also caused Javanization and Javacentrism. Alas, the reign is officially ended in this election.

Surprisingly, even though how slanted PNI-R has become, the percentage they received still remains high. But, the PPP holds the leaderboard. Climbing as the first party, PPP has a decent 37% percentage, while the PNI-R acclaims 31%. Before coming to minor parties, PKI has a 25% of the seat, rising than before. The others are BKDT, PUI and Melanesia Party in descending order. PPP and PKI reformed their alliance, so the DPR is theirs.

The distribution is fairly reasonable. In Malaysia and Madagascar, almost everyone votes for PPP, while there are small pockets of PNI-R here and there. In Sumatra, only Aceh votes for PUI, while the rest is a solid PNI-R. In Borneo, the populous is split between PPP and PNI-R, PPP holds North and West, while PNI-R holds East and South. In Sulawesi, North and South were split between PPP and PKI respectively. In Papua, Maluku and Melanesia, PNI-R holds strongly while Melanesia Party and BKDT still several seats. The DPD threshold was quite similar to the DPR ones, the difference was that the PUI actually attains more seats than usual, even holding several Pasundan's key seats. PNI-R also neck-to-neck with PPP, the only difference is a slight percentage. But anywhere else is quite similar to DPR's results.

The legislative election is PPP-PKI win, and LKY immediate ascended into Premiership. And then, the presidential followed suit. Different than the legislative election, the Presidential one is perplexing, as not only regions are not valid into judgement, but also how balanced the vote is. Almost nearly 50-50, Subandrio wins the Presidency in a slim 2 % from Nasution.

A long story short, Subandrio would be inaugurated in October as president, and LKY as Premier. They would determine Indonesia’s history for the next five years.

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3rd August 1978

Tokyo, Japan

Foreign Minister Suharto is angry about Nasution’s loss in the election. The PPP, although not majorly, has swept PNI-R off the government, and in October, they will take over the government. Nasution thought that he was certain that the Presidency is theirs, him lobbying with influential local figures were not helping, as Subandrio has now won.

Suharto also found a new flaw on the Constitution, which was the three-month gap on Legislative and Executive Election. Legislative Elections is held of every April on 5 years, while Presidential Elections on July. The three-month gap was very ineffective and time-consuming, especially as Indonesia is technically a semi-presidential Republic, not a Parliamentary one. Moreover, the domestic ran first, then the Presidency. So, when in May the Legislative Results had come up, the PPP establish a ‘shadow government’ – controlling most parts of the domestic sector, even though PNI-R is still the government.

Indeed, PPP was already the leader for domestic policies for the last five years, but their controlling tendency reaches out towards foreign policies, including Suharto’s occupation. As PKI is also the elected-government, Suharto was informed by Subandrio that he must not jeopardize any relations harming with socialist states, and that includes China. Suharto just groaned on that matter, but cannot disobey. Suharto even irritates harder when he discovers the situation in China.

In 28th March 1978, Chinese officials reported the official death of Mao Ze Dong. Dies from a heart attack, the medical aid was too late for the ruler. The government held a public farewell on the hero, the man who built Communist China as it is now. Mao was a better communist leader, better than Stalin or Thorez. Balancing authority and rotation of power, Mao has created the People’s Republic of China from a small pariah near Shanxi to an agriculture power, even surpassing the Soviet Union’s records.

Mao’s death leaves the state in early industrialization. In 1975, Mao has ordered that agriculture was good enough for China to continue of the next stage of growth. Rice productions were at an all-time high, even enough for distributing to all of East Asia. For the first time, the abundance of rice in China made their population not starving, and increase rapidly. Economically, Mao’s reign was the pinnacle for China’s entrance to an economic powerhouse.

Politically though, Mao was surrounded by his cronies. Called the Gang of Four, the members criticized Mao’s lack of authority for eradicating all traitors and non-believers of Mao. The group consists of Jiang Qing, Zhang Chun Qiao, Yao Wen Yuan and Wang Huo Wen. After the death of Mao, there was a power vacuum in the political leadership of the party, and immediately Gang of Four takeovers.

Just only months ruling, Jiang Qing announced that a ‘Cultural Revolution’ must be established, erasing all anti-revolutionaries. Suharto at first was delighted about the news, these figures were destabilizing their nation. However, Suharto’s concern was Jiang Qing’s realignment to the Soviet Union, which Suharto definitely doesn’t want. China has shifted India to becoming a pro-communist nation, joining with the Soviets? It would be a disaster.

Certainly, France doesn’t want to lose her ally, from Lin Biao and Deng Xiao Ping, these pro-French officials conduct battles against the Gang of Four, and the battle has begun.

Suharto is trying to contact Japan for a possible alliance. Now or later, China would grow far beyond the United States’ capacity. Indonesia and Japan must prepare themselves for the inevitable.

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Casablanca, French Fifth Republic

Conservative Representative Ronald Reagan is visiting this part of the French colony for détente purposes. Joining with other Democrats for possible friendship. Ronald Reagan deeply knows that his arrival to this wonderful African region was not for France, but for Moroccan separatist groups. President Jimmy Carter has given the green light for Operation Shadow War, which was essentially fighting rivals from within. Although in the front, Carter is pro-peace, philanthropists. The inside is more complicated.

Ronald Reagan is fighting for the presidential nominee of the Conservative Party, but meet up with his rival Barry Goldwater. Barry Goldwater is pro-segregationist and was endorsed by Nixon and Thurmond. Meanwhile, Reagan is pro-business, but rather not discuss segregation. After Nixon’s abrupt first term, the United States is trending towards more equality. In Carter’s presidency, even the hippies are no longer a movement, as most of their key demands are fulfilled by the Democrat President.

However distant Reagan is with Carter in terms of domestic policy, both of them agreed on America’s supremacy. America has emerged as the global superpower since WW2, and both figures hope that would remain long. The difference was Carter go with a more discreet attitude, where Reagan would just go stand-off like the Old Wild West.

In his acting career, he was patronized by fellow colleagues from his workforce. Notable actors from Hollywood even endorsed him on his Conservative Nomination, but fail because of Nixon’s one last attempt on becoming President in 1976, therefore Ronald Reagan as Vice President. Even Star Wars actors, like Mark Hamill and Harrison Ford, become great young friends for Reagan to converse.

He is distracted by his companions, saying that King Hassan II of Morocco has arrived.
Finnaly morrocco and on the topic of china what happened to deng xiaoping
 
However, Suharto’s concern was Jiang Qing’s realignment to the Soviet Union, which Suharto definitely doesn’t want. China has shifted India to becoming a pro-communist nation, joining with the Soviets? It would be a disaster.
1978 Election
Partai Komunis Indonesia (Indonesian Communist Party) - 139 seats - 25,05%
  • Fraksi Untung (Untung Faction) - 69 seats
  • Fraksi Pro-Cina (Pro-China Faction) - 43 seats
  • Fraksi Pro-Uni Soviet (Pro-Soviet Faction) - 27 seats
Is it just me, or the Communist Party are going to be fractured anytime soon? That was an almost clean 50-50 factional split if I have to say about it.
 
The Roaring 80s Part 1: Gulf States Initiative
Gulf States Initiative

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The Persian Gulf, ignore the state boundaries in Iraq.

President of the United States, Jimmy Carter, proved his half first term to be astoundingly good. The National Energy Act, the first initiative to notice the States’ dependency on oil, to various alternatives. Kennedycare was strengthened with Medicaid, later Carteraid, because of the Republicans’ neglect on social issues that caused the former program near in bankruptcy.

President Jimmy Carter, for the populous, was the right side of the Democratic liberal wing. Therefore, although Carter was pro-peace, environmentalism and considerate to people with serious needs, Carter was also conservative on fiscal and sometimes in foreign policy. Carter determined that the United States must establish a network of allies around the world, with one in every region as secondary powers in the influence of the United States. In the Middle East, that network was apparent on the dual-powers of Pakistan and Iran.
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Shah of Iran Mohammad Reza Pahlavi
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Prime Minister of Pakistan Pir of Pagaro VII

The alliance between these two powers is natural certainly. They shared enemies universally, China and India in the East, the Soviet Union in the North, and Turkey and UASR in the West. Even the Baluchistan territories of both these two nations were under attention by everyone and Afghanistan, who wanted to reclaim all Pashtun enclaves in Pakistan. Therefore, although different branches of Islam, these two nations are compatible with each other. President Jimmy Carter noticed the alliance’s fragile presence, literally isolated with hostile powers, as means for expanding the current sphere. The first key nations he noticed, was the nations around the Persian Gulf. Those are Bahrain, Qatar and UAE.

Shortly after the British’s African abandonment, most colonies that were regarded as troublesome, like the Middle East, are immediately withdrawn. The British would not want to be entangled with superpowers that pry on the region, like France and let alone the Soviet Union. The Unionist Party is trying to reconstruct the domestic of Britain, therefore allowing themselves to remove themselves from any international incidents. Because of that, most of the nations involved, these three particularly, got themselves liberated immediately. As a matter of fact, by 1 December 1963, all of them were given their independence. Immediately though, Saudi Arabia decided to announce its ambitions regarding these territories, and Iran also got involved.

Bahrain and UAE were constitutional emirates, therefore align with fellow Iranian constitutionalists. Even though Shia and Sunni were always at odds, Saudi Arabia is a large menace for these tiny nations. In 1965, Iran and these states formed the Gulf State Initiative, the objective was to divert oil trade from major regions of Saudi Arabia and UASRd while improving each state’s oil reserve. The other initiative was to close shipping in the Persian Gulf in favour of the GSI. As the Arab League was ineffective in combating UASR’s meteoric rise, this caused another drive for forming GSI.

Qatar, on the other hand, was not willing at first. This Middle East state was an absolute monarchy and was not relenting the power to be given for the Parliament. The Shah’s hard stance on democracy already proven effective, by giving the other two states, Bahrain and UAE, bits of parliamentary and election. Qatar is, again, has a hard conservative core, and instead ally with Saudi Arabia.

Indonesia, mannerly, also took part in strengthening the nation. With Nasution giving oil trades in return of cattle, food and other basic needs unavailable in a desert, Indonesia imported their oil reserves. Trihandoko meanwhile, stopped those imports and that means that most of them must leave the Gulf for the States, which was not preferable, as the Suez Canal was controlled by hostilities. The United States, although is transitioning to the alternative use of energy, still needs oil for their expenditure. Carter immediately negotiated with the UASR, promising them non-provocative interventions by the States for allowing most ships for passing. Suez is technically passable internationally, but prejudices were thick, American and British vessels, later German, were not allowed to rest at Port Said, and the nearest friendly port was Kenya. Some vessels even were bullied. Similarly, Iran and GSI must convey a drastic measure of defending their homelands as they are fighting a proxy war, right at Lebanon.

After France's last decolonization efforts before stopping, Lebanon was one of the lucky nations to be released from French influence. A pro-Western, later pro-Germany government, Lebanon key aspects was to ally everyone except the communists. Lebanon's conditions after UASR's quick annexation of its neighbours was a frightening one. Luckily, Premier Nasser never pushed for a UASR expansion in the region. He admitted Lebanon's legitimacy as a sovereign state, and a large Christian denomination is also another factor. However, Nasser was hoping that Lebanon would soon join the big tent. But, we must consider yet another giant, Saudi Arabia.

Starting from the end of 1960s, Saudi Arabia and the Soviet Union is drifting for a mutual friendship. Even though communism disdained the monarchy, their absolutism was one similar feature of those two nations. Saudi Arabia was humiliated by Shafer's hard stance against totalitarian governments, therefore reinforcing the alliance. Saudi Arabia noticed that in the Middle East, all slots are nearly taken. The UASR blocked Saudi Arabia's attempt on influencing Levantine states because they are no more. Iran is forming an alliance in defence against Saudi Arabia.

Lebanon itself was a bomb with a rope. The region's multisectarian characteristics already brew the impending conflict. Sunni Muslims and Christians living in coastal cities. Shia Muslims mainly in the South and East. Druze and other Christians living in the mountains. Especially with Jewish exodus from dissolved Israel, the threat was now increasing exponentially. It exploded when Turkish militias added a fuse, and consecutively it began.

The Lebanese Civil War happened after a clash between Sunni villagers against Jewish during their exodus towards who knows where. The brawl resulted in a fight, and a stand-off, finally a full-blown conflict. The Christian-led government was accused of allying the Jewish to steal their lands. In 1976, the region was completely polarized, as Christians and Jews, Sunni Muslims, and Shia Muslims all ended on the other side of each other. On the bright side for Christians, Shia Islams cooperates for fighting against Sunni, therefore starting the Lebanese Civil War.

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There is another problem brewing, which is regarding the small nation of Kuwait. Liberated from the British Empire, Kuwait became a monarchy that was wedged between Saudi Arabia and Iraq, later UASR. As the entrance of Iraq from the Gulf, Kuwait was the one reason why the United States is very interested in the region. However, since ship traffics from UASR to China is rising as well, Nasser is constructing a huge port on the Tigris-Euphrates Basin, undermining the balance in the Iran-dominated Gulf. It seemed that war would be inevitable, as Saudi Arabia is expressing intentions to that small nation.
 
Lebanon is not conquered by the uasr very interesting a definate hotbed in the future i presume.

Anyway i have several question:
1.since you mention africa im always wondering do the crazy leader of africa still exist (idi amin of uganda,mobutu of zaire,jean bedel bokasa of the car,samuel doe of liberia etc)
2.speaking of liberia what happened to that country
3.due to the uasr location who is in technical terms controll the mediteranian? since we have italy,spain,france,yugoslavia,uasr,turkey etc
4.what is the reason that german ship are nit allowed to rest
5.due to uasr not allowing american and british ship to rest are those two country (us and britain) atleast acknowledge that the uasr is a problem?
 
Lebanon is not conquered by the uasr very interesting a definate hotbed in the future i presume.

Anyway i have several question:
1.since you mention africa im always wondering do the crazy leader of africa still exist (idi amin of uganda,mobutu of zaire,jean bedel bokasa of the car,samuel doe of liberia etc)
2.speaking of liberia what happened to that country
3.due to the uasr location who is in technical terms controll the mediteranian? since we have italy,spain,france,yugoslavia,uasr,turkey etc
4.what is the reason that german ship are nit allowed to rest
5.due to uasr not allowing american and british ship to rest are those two country (us and britain) atleast acknowledge that the uasr is a problem?
I will try to answer:
4. Germany is not allowed because of they are ally of the US
5. The most likely reason is because they are too "neo-imperialistic".
 
I will try to answer:
4. Germany is not allowed because of they are ally of the US
5. The most likely reason is because they are too "neo-imperialistic".
But then arent britain basically abandoned it's major possesion in the world and only retaining smaller parts of its empire (falklands,hongkong,bases in cyprus etc) why are nasser still judged britain ti be imperialistic i mean i can see it perhaps maybe due to historical reason
 
Gulf States Initiative

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The Persian Gulf, ignore the state boundaries in Iraq.

President of the United States, Jimmy Carter, proved his half first term to be astoundingly good. The National Energy Act, the first initiative to notice the States’ dependency on oil, to various alternatives. Kennedycare was strengthened with Medicaid, later Carteraid, because of the Republicans’ neglect on social issues that caused the former program near in bankruptcy.

President Jimmy Carter, for the populous, was the right side of the Democratic liberal wing. Therefore, although Carter was pro-peace, environmentalism and considerate to people with serious needs, Carter was also conservative on fiscal and sometimes in foreign policy. Carter determined that the United States must establish a network of allies around the world, with one in every region as secondary powers in the influence of the United States. In the Middle East, that network was apparent on the dual-powers of Pakistan and Iran.
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Shah of Iran Mohammad Reza Pahlavi
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Prime Minister of Pakistan Pir of Pagaro VII

The alliance between these two powers is natural certainly. They shared enemies universally, China and India in the East, the Soviet Union in the North, and Turkey and UASR in the West. Even the Baluchistan territories of both these two nations were under attention by everyone and Afghanistan, who wanted to reclaim all Pashtun enclaves in Pakistan. Therefore, although different branches of Islam, these two nations are compatible with each other. President Jimmy Carter noticed the alliance’s fragile presence, literally isolated with hostile powers, as means for expanding the current sphere. The first key nations he noticed, was the nations around the Persian Gulf. Those are Bahrain, Qatar and UAE.

Shortly after the British’s African abandonment, most colonies that were regarded as troublesome, like the Middle East, are immediately withdrawn. The British would not want to be entangled with superpowers that pry on the region, like France and let alone the Soviet Union. The Unionist Party is trying to reconstruct the domestic of Britain, therefore allowing themselves to remove themselves from any international incidents. Because of that, most of the nations involved, these three particularly, got themselves liberated immediately. As a matter of fact, by 1 December 1963, all of them were given their independence. Immediately though, Saudi Arabia decided to announce its ambitions regarding these territories, and Iran also got involved.

Bahrain and UAE were constitutional emirates, therefore align with fellow Iranian constitutionalists. Even though Shia and Sunni were always at odds, Saudi Arabia is a large menace for these tiny nations. In 1965, Iran and these states formed the Gulf State Initiative, the objective was to divert oil trade from major regions of Saudi Arabia and UASRd while improving each state’s oil reserve. The other initiative was to close shipping in the Persian Gulf in favour of the GSI. As the Arab League was ineffective in combating UASR’s meteoric rise, this caused another drive for forming GSI.

Qatar, on the other hand, was not willing at first. This Middle East state was an absolute monarchy and was not relenting the power to be given for the Parliament. The Shah’s hard stance on democracy already proven effective, by giving the other two states, Bahrain and UAE, bits of parliamentary and election. Qatar is, again, has a hard conservative core, and instead ally with Saudi Arabia.

Indonesia, mannerly, also took part in strengthening the nation. With Nasution giving oil trades in return of cattle, food and other basic needs unavailable in a desert, Indonesia imported their oil reserves. Trihandoko meanwhile, stopped those imports and that means that most of them must leave the Gulf for the States, which was not preferable, as the Suez Canal was controlled by hostilities. The United States, although is transitioning to the alternative use of energy, still needs oil for their expenditure. Carter immediately negotiated with the UASR, promising them non-provocative interventions by the States for allowing most ships for passing. Suez is technically passable internationally, but prejudices were thick, American and British vessels, later German, were not allowed to rest at Port Said, and the nearest friendly port was Kenya. Some vessels even were bullied. Similarly, Iran and GSI must convey a drastic measure of defending their homelands as they are fighting a proxy war, right at Lebanon.

After France's last decolonization efforts before stopping, Lebanon was one of the lucky nations to be released from French influence. A pro-Western, later pro-Germany government, Lebanon key aspects was to ally everyone except the communists. Lebanon's conditions after UASR's quick annexation of its neighbours was a frightening one. Luckily, Premier Nasser never pushed for a UASR expansion in the region. He admitted Lebanon's legitimacy as a sovereign state, and a large Christian denomination is also another factor. However, Nasser was hoping that Lebanon would soon join the big tent. But, we must consider yet another giant, Saudi Arabia.

Starting from the end of 1960s, Saudi Arabia and the Soviet Union is drifting for a mutual friendship. Even though communism disdained the monarchy, their absolutism was one similar feature of those two nations. Saudi Arabia was humiliated by Shafer's hard stance against totalitarian governments, therefore reinforcing the alliance. Saudi Arabia noticed that in the Middle East, all slots are nearly taken. The UASR blocked Saudi Arabia's attempt on influencing Levantine states because they are no more. Iran is forming an alliance in defence against Saudi Arabia.

Lebanon itself was a bomb with a rope. The region's multisectarian characteristics already brew the impending conflict. Sunni Muslims and Christians living in coastal cities. Shia Muslims mainly in the South and East. Druze and other Christians living in the mountains. Especially with Jewish exodus from dissolved Israel, the threat was now increasing exponentially. It exploded when Turkish militias added a fuse, and consecutively it began.

The Lebanese Civil War happened after a clash between Sunni villagers against Jewish during their exodus towards who knows where. The brawl resulted in a fight, and a stand-off, finally a full-blown conflict. The Christian-led government was accused of allying the Jewish to steal their lands. In 1976, the region was completely polarized, as Christians and Jews, Sunni Muslims, and Shia Muslims all ended on the other side of each other. On the bright side for Christians, Shia Islams cooperates for fighting against Sunni, therefore starting the Lebanese Civil War.


There is another problem brewing, which is regarding the small nation of Kuwait. Liberated from the British Empire, Kuwait became a monarchy that was wedged between Saudi Arabia and Iraq, later UASR. As the entrance of Iraq from the Gulf, Kuwait was the one reason why the United States is very interested in the region. However, since ship traffics from UASR to China is rising as well, Nasser is constructing a huge port on the Tigris-Euphrates Basin, undermining the balance in the Iran-dominated Gulf. It seemed that war would be inevitable, as Saudi Arabia is expressing intentions to that small nation.
Why didnt nasser just outright conquer kuwait? And does this make kuwait and to certain extent bahrain and the uae a us ally?

Speakinh of the middle east what happened to yemen and oman did yemen still undergo a split?
 
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