Obergruppenführer Smith
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Unless there are competing sides, do we really need to make far-right whatever for everything?
Republican or Other France is my suggestion.
Embrace the SUCK: Skallagrim's Unexpurgated Colour Key
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Already exists.
Unless there are competing sides, do we really need to make far-right whatever for everything?
Republican or Other France is my suggestion.
Skallagrim
Banned
Not to worry about the anti-aliasing, friends. I use Illustrator, and infinite amounts of layers. As in: every single country designation is its own layer. So I can select every text layer and drop the anti-aliasing for them all in one fell swoop. I've figured out how that works now. They'll even stay perfectly in place (being separate layers) without shifting all over the scheme. It's going to be in the next update. Still testing fonts for optimal readability.
On the subject of the next update: I want to thank everyone who's dropping in with awesome suggestions. I'm sorry for not responding for a couple of days. I'm a bit swamped here with other stuff. I am reading along, I value the input, and at some point in the near future, I'm getting back to all of you with actual in-detail replies and an updated edit list.
On the subject of the next update: I want to thank everyone who's dropping in with awesome suggestions. I'm sorry for not responding for a couple of days. I'm a bit swamped here with other stuff. I am reading along, I value the input, and at some point in the near future, I'm getting back to all of you with actual in-detail replies and an updated edit list.
Obergruppenführer Smith
Banned
Thank you for your efforts Skallagrim.
If you don't mind my suggestion, could a color for Lanfang Republic / Kongsi federation / East-Asian influenced-dominated Indonesian color be added?
If you don't mind my suggestion, could a color for Lanfang Republic / Kongsi federation / East-Asian influenced-dominated Indonesian color be added?
Very many thanks there! When can we expect the next update?
And I always found Calibri fonts well-readable...
I think the colour for "far-left USA" should be a bit more "commie", or we should return to what @XO Mapping and I had done and split "Socialist/left-wing USA" from "Far-left USA"...
New suggestion: a colour for united West Slavs, or Zapadoslavia or whatever. Maybe sharing the colour of either Silesia or Intermarium?
Obergruppenführer Smith
Banned
Besides that one. I'm thinking of a very splintered Mexico after the Centralist Republic of Mexico completely collapses, I've already used up all the US state colors and Republican, Monarchist, far-right, far-left, Rio Grande, and Other dominant.
So I got bored and did an item-by-item check:
General: A lot of colours have a base that is either very light or very dark. This creates readibility issues with the lighter/darker shades, as they become less distinguishable from teh base colour when extremes of luminosity are used ffor the base colour. You're not the only one to make this mistake.
Carolingian Empire vs. Franks: These are basically the same thing (one is the name of the most notable Frankish dynasty; the other is the name of the culture-group ruled by that dynasty; it is historically correct to call the Carolingian Empire a late development the Kingdom of the Franks).
You have Western Roman Empire and Gallic Empire under the same colour. While they didn't exist simultaneously (11 years separate them), it does imply a strong relationship between them which doesn't exiost OTL (one was a planned division of power; the other was an open rebellion). A simular issue exist with the colour for Eastern Roman Empire/Palmyrene Empire.
Prussia/Teutons: "Teutons" were a Germanic tribe that lived in northern Denmark. If you mean Teutonic Knights, say so. The two are not the same.
Szekerland: These guys are mostly ethnic Hungarians in modern Romania, not ethnic Germans (the biggest concentrations of Germans in Romania are in the northwest and west border regions, not Szekelyand)). For a Germanic state in eastern Europe, the most notable example is the Volga German ASSR (which you have listed separately). no reason not to have a "Germans in SE Europe e.g. Szekely" colour of course, but a "Hungarian Szekely" colour is needed.
Nonary German state: The "Congo joke" got transferred to Germany, I see.
Congress Poland: As others have noted, this was really a Russian puppet, not an independent country. Maybe use this colour for the Free City of Cracow (1815-46) instead?
"other" Poles: Calling Polabians and Kashubians "Poles" is about as correct as calling Canadians "Americans", and I suspect, as likely to get a friendly reaction as calling a Scottish person "English".
Scythia: These guys were ethnic Iranians, a subset of the Indo-European you labelled them as. Ditto for the Sarmatians. It's about as correct as saying "nonary European state" instead of "nonary German state".
Finno-Volgaics: This is a discredited linguistic theory, not an actual OTL thing. Could still be an ATL thing of course, but it feels like giving undue notability. This and the other Finno-Gric colours could be useful for depicting the ethnic Hungarian migratory patterns though.
Why is ancient Macedon and Alexander's Empire separate? I'm fairly sure they were the same thing, except that one was rajing.
Tunesia (sic): spelling
Turkey: The problem with labelling separate colours for Islamist Turkey and Kemalist/secular Turkey is that there is a strong continuity of nationhood from Kamal himself through to the present near-theocratic regime.
Not sure why North Yemen gets to be the 4th option for a Yemeni country rather than the 2nd.
You have a non-socialist Venezuela, but no colour for a socialist Venezuela.
The states that declared (short-lived) independence from Brazil really ought to have colours.
General: A lot of colours have a base that is either very light or very dark. This creates readibility issues with the lighter/darker shades, as they become less distinguishable from teh base colour when extremes of luminosity are used ffor the base colour. You're not the only one to make this mistake.
Carolingian Empire vs. Franks: These are basically the same thing (one is the name of the most notable Frankish dynasty; the other is the name of the culture-group ruled by that dynasty; it is historically correct to call the Carolingian Empire a late development the Kingdom of the Franks).
You have Western Roman Empire and Gallic Empire under the same colour. While they didn't exist simultaneously (11 years separate them), it does imply a strong relationship between them which doesn't exiost OTL (one was a planned division of power; the other was an open rebellion). A simular issue exist with the colour for Eastern Roman Empire/Palmyrene Empire.
Prussia/Teutons: "Teutons" were a Germanic tribe that lived in northern Denmark. If you mean Teutonic Knights, say so. The two are not the same.
Szekerland: These guys are mostly ethnic Hungarians in modern Romania, not ethnic Germans (the biggest concentrations of Germans in Romania are in the northwest and west border regions, not Szekelyand)). For a Germanic state in eastern Europe, the most notable example is the Volga German ASSR (which you have listed separately). no reason not to have a "Germans in SE Europe e.g. Szekely" colour of course, but a "Hungarian Szekely" colour is needed.
Nonary German state: The "Congo joke" got transferred to Germany, I see.
Congress Poland: As others have noted, this was really a Russian puppet, not an independent country. Maybe use this colour for the Free City of Cracow (1815-46) instead?
"other" Poles: Calling Polabians and Kashubians "Poles" is about as correct as calling Canadians "Americans", and I suspect, as likely to get a friendly reaction as calling a Scottish person "English".
Scythia: These guys were ethnic Iranians, a subset of the Indo-European you labelled them as. Ditto for the Sarmatians. It's about as correct as saying "nonary European state" instead of "nonary German state".
Finno-Volgaics: This is a discredited linguistic theory, not an actual OTL thing. Could still be an ATL thing of course, but it feels like giving undue notability. This and the other Finno-Gric colours could be useful for depicting the ethnic Hungarian migratory patterns though.
Why is ancient Macedon and Alexander's Empire separate? I'm fairly sure they were the same thing, except that one was rajing.
Tunesia (sic): spelling
Turkey: The problem with labelling separate colours for Islamist Turkey and Kemalist/secular Turkey is that there is a strong continuity of nationhood from Kamal himself through to the present near-theocratic regime.
Not sure why North Yemen gets to be the 4th option for a Yemeni country rather than the 2nd.
You have a non-socialist Venezuela, but no colour for a socialist Venezuela.
The states that declared (short-lived) independence from Brazil really ought to have colours.
I think with "Islamist Turkey" - although one could label Erdoganism as such - a Turkey that becomes Saudi-Arabia or Da'esh or something is meant.
I agree on those three counts!
I mostly agree on the other counts as well, but can't really comment on things like Scythians or Polabians...
I really advocate giving all states of Mexico and Brazil colours again. Maybe they can double for indigenous tribes living there, too? Some could always double for "far-left", "far-right" etc. pp.
Obergruppenführer Smith
Banned
I was also thinking of a non-Ottoman Sultanate/Caliphate based on what we would consider "Turkish".
What's the difference between the Byzantine Empire and Byzantion/Constantinople? The actual state and some "city-state"?
The colors for Monarchist Latvia and Monarchist Lithuania are way too close, and both of them are close to Republican Poland, and this might create confusion in monarchy-wank/CP victory scenarios. Plus, brown is just not representative of Lithuania and is completely unrelated to it.
If I may, can I propose dartmouth green as a better Monarchist Lithuania color? I have no idea why it's not used as a Lithuania color in any color key systems (except RCS) - it's the closest thing to a Lithuanian national color, like blue for the US or red for England.
If I may, can I propose dartmouth green as a better Monarchist Lithuania color? I have no idea why it's not used as a Lithuania color in any color key systems (except RCS) - it's the closest thing to a Lithuanian national color, like blue for the US or red for England.
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