Elysium: Roman America

100 AD

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Looks good except for the conquest of the Persian Empire.

Comes from somewhere like New Guinea or the East Indies originally, not the Americas, and its cultivation apparently wasn't brought to lands that would have been within Roman reach (when the Arabs spread it from India into southern Mesopotamia) until after the Western Roman Empire had fallen.

Ah, okay.
 
The big effect will be tech transfer to the natives. Metalworking, ships, beasts of burden.

Bazinga.

BIG differences with the introduction of horses, cattle, sheep and chickens.

Wheat and olives too. And don't forget wine.

BIGGEST difference could be that the New World natives might have time to wrap their brains around the existence of the Rest Of The World.
 

katchen

Banned
Well, rubber, if someone brings some back and someone else accidentally figures out how to vulcanize it.
Then again, not everything the New World has to offer is GOOD FOR YOU. Tobacco might be a draw.:D (Or a chaw.:p And then, if a Roman trireme makes it all the way up the Amazon to it's head of navigation to Moche without it's crew getting sacrificed, coca.:D
Coca keeps them coming, that is if the rats don't eat it all before the ship makes it back to port.--it's that habit forming. But bring back llamas. And alpacas. And vicunas, if they survive the trip. And sweet potatoes. And potatoes. And quinoa. And guinea pigs. And guinea fowl. And turkeys. And bring over chickens and wheat and sheep and pigs and cows. Got a big enough ship for that?
 

That is... optimistic.

- Why have they taking part of the Persian highlands and not the rest?
- Whats with coastal Nubia?
- Thats a whole lot of nothing they're occupying in western Africa, until they get to Senegal.
- Setting aside the logistics of the Romans maintaining a trans-atlantic Empire in the 1st century, I'm curious how they're maintaining the Andean territories?
- Actually, I'm curious why they're holding it; its about a millennium and a half poorer than when the Spaniards take over.
- Actually, lets not set aside the difficulty of maintaing a trans-atlantic Empire. Skimming over the last thread, pretty much whatever Elfwine said, I'd probably like to echo.
 

katchen

Banned
When we're thinking galleys and galleasses (ships with rigging and oars) and favorable trade winds from Africa across the narrows of the Atlantic making a fast passage to South America possible, plus what we now know about the settled lands along the Amazon River before Spanish borne disease took it's toll, there should be a ribbon of Roman civilization up and down the Amazon, since that river is easy to travel by oar. Things are different for oared ships than for ships that travel exclusively by sail. And there's the attraction of all that coca....
 
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