Elysium..., a Roman America TL
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Yep. Mostly or Goldcoast. In case nobody notice, James Rogers are the father of the Robert Rogers who funded the Rogers Rangers, the first Commando Unit in the British Army
Now that they conquered all the Americas will the all militarist party can end? Because all the easy expanding they can do is in south America .
Plus in this TL there is never gonna be decolonisation, so Africa is the only playground left for Europe , and the natives are gonna be screwed , because all the emigration in our TL is gonna flow towards the black continent this time.
This is a empire TL with the great empires and the concept of nation is gonna be coerced down the throat of conquered people.
So I hope for your sake Poland that you survive that if not you are not gonna be free.
And i feel sorry for Ireland.
The greats imperials powers i can predict:
Elysium with or without south America.
Japan the giant of Asia that control the China sea and Siberia.
China ? In what shitty state it is? The Manchu have gone south even with an aggressive Japanese empire.
Plus Taiwan at this point is like guinea it free estate ?
Plus in this TL there is never gonna be decolonisation, so Africa is the only playground left for Europe , and the natives are gonna be screwed , because all the emigration in our TL is gonna flow towards the black continent this time.
This is a empire TL with the great empires and the concept of nation is gonna be coerced down the throat of conquered people.
So I hope for your sake Poland that you survive that if not you are not gonna be free.
And i feel sorry for Ireland.
The greats imperials powers i can predict:
Elysium with or without south America.
Japan the giant of Asia that control the China sea and Siberia.
China ? In what shitty state it is? The Manchu have gone south even with an aggressive Japanese empire.
Plus Taiwan at this point is like guinea it free estate ?
Being an officer of the common British army... or even a Colonial Governor of Goldcoast.
Shh relax bruh...
How about Ben Franklin, ambassador to Elysium??Being an officer of the common British army... or even a Colonial Governor of Goldcoast.
Shh relax bruh...
Expanded Universe Thread
Hello,
There is not much left for the Elysians to achieve in becoming virtually unstoppable as a world power. The last chapter is dated 1410 AD so it is a matter of a few decades before contact is re-established with the Old World, intentional or not. It appears only transportation is the final link in Elysium becoming a modern state. For that to happen the Elysians need to translate...
to...
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If the pictures provided in the chapters give any idea about the state of the Elysian military, then it is a matter of how fast the European powers could catch up to the Elysians (not enough time really before the Europeans are swiftly defeated). And with a dedicated military research and development institute, the Elysians will have several surprises beyond what is currently fielded.
Chapter 51 Caesar Marcus Sertorius Magnus 2550 AUC / 1797 AD - 2580 AUC / 1827 AD
Imperator Augustus Caesar Manius Sertorius Magnus
Manius's successor was his son: Marcus Sertorius Magnus. Marcus was the third son of Manius, therefore he was not expected to ascend the throne. Like many sons of Patricians and Equites, he was sent to the Bellica Academy in Civis Lenape, where he would be taught. In his memoir, Marcus would write: "I learned to ride and shoot as long as I learned to read or write; almost before I could walk and talk, in fact." At the academy he would receive the gold medal for "study and conduct". Marcus would be deployed during the Conquest of Hawaii, where he would be ambushed by a pair of bandits or native guerrillas; Marcus would kill them both with his personal pistol. Later he would do politics becoming a Senator although his brothers would die during a plague that broke out but claimed several thousand victims. Later, one of the most notable events would be to modernize the educational system, expanding the concept of the military character to include poise, leadership, efficiency and athletic performance within the subjects.
Marcus tried to combat "hazing" in educational centers even with the formation of the so-called Centurias Discipulas Securitas (Student Security Centuries). The process was comparable to establishing a police in the schools. Although he was seen as having the possibility of the "Discipulum Securitas" abusing his position of authority, he decided to put a non-student Dux (Leader) to lead the groups. This Dux would make sure that the security code was not broken. Later, modernization would reach the curriculum adding courses in art, government and economics while in Military Art classes, the study of the campaigns of the Roman Empire was replaced with the study of the campaigns of the Elysian Empire. He allowed upper class students to leave the premises and authorized one student newspaper per school. Perhaps most revolutionary was a monthly allowance of 5 Denarius to students above certain grades, all with the aim of fostering competition.
By 1797, Marcus ascended the throne as his father's successor. But while this was happening, France suffered the worst possible fate: The Civil War. The French civil war or also called Revolution, came due to social and economic inequality between the nobility and the peasantry together with the rapid growth of the population and the inability to adequately finance the public debt caused economic depression, unemployment and high food prices. But one of the biggest thoughts was towards the great military losses during the war against England, when it landed and devastated the North of France. During this chaotic period, there were frequent riots, protests, and strikes. Apart from the fact that the Catholic population was in displeasure with the nobility that showed little respect towards religion and the Church.
On May 5, 1797, a mob formed to attack the Bastille, a royal fortress with large caches of arms and ammunition. The King ordered the mobilization of the Garde Nationale to crush this uprising, which quickly turned into an urban war fought from house to house. Until a flag began to wave on top of Notredame. A white and yellow flag stained with blood. This flag symbolized a France under the power of God and the Church. The church was the largest single landowner in France, controlling nearly 10% of all property and collecting tithes, effectively a 10% tax on income, collected from peasants in the form of crops. But after Italian Unification, the King of France dissolved religious orders and monasteries in France, while monks and nuns were encouraged to return to private life. The Pope and many French Catholics opposed this as it denied the Pope's authority over the French Christian nation.
The result was state-led persecution of "refractory clergy," many of whom were forced into exile, deported, or executed, bringing the civilian population closer to the clergy. The flag in the center of Paris, ran like lit gunpowder until it reached Rome and by the end of August. The worst nightmare dreamed by a French king since 1300, came true: The Templars returned. Supported by regiments that turned against their royalist officers, a scant 10,000 Templars, grouped in a Division, advanced against any kind of opposition but with every victory or mile advanced, it was an increased army. Until finally Paris was reached. Louis XVI prisoner of terror, surrendered. And the French people decided to end the French Monarchy, the new leader of France would be the Church itself.
The considered "papal annexation" of France, was viewed with total terror by England and the Protestant countries. England began a campaign to finance the French Protestant and Royalist forces within the same continent with money and weapons while they landed and occupied the Dutch Republic peacefully. The anti-papal revolts were in a barely perceived state of disarray; old soldiers of the Ancien Régime fought side by side with raw volunteers. The Catholic nations for the most part tried not to interfere, although the trade and supply of weapons were not denied. In the midst of this panorama, one of the greatest events occurred, when an artillery general of Corsican origin who would later become important, decided to allow the first use of chemical weapons in the form of gas. The general's response was used to justify chemical warfare against the heretical and Protestant enemy against opponents of this weapon.
"It is considered a legitimate mode of warfare to fill projectiles with molten metal which spreads among the enemy and produces the most gruesome forms of death. It is incomprehensible why a poisonous vapor that would kill men without suffering would be considered an illegitimate war. War it is destruction, and the more destructive it can be done with the least human suffering, the sooner that barbaric method will be done away with." The first chemical weapons bombardment was made near Neuve-Chapelle when Napoleon Bonaparte attacked Royalist, English and Protestant troops with chlorine gas released from boats and blown into enemy trenches. The effects were so brutally effective that when the Papal-French troops advanced they were met by emaciated soldiers, coats thrown or open wide, scarves ripped off, running like mad, directionless, screaming for water, spitting blood, some even rolling on the ground making desperate efforts to breathe.
Only a few managed to survive because they were protected by oxygen breathing apparatus for miners. The Papal army advanced when the yellow-green clouds with a characteristic smell, similar to pineapple and pepper, moved towards the allied trenches. The English officers, assuming at first that the Papist infantry were advancing behind a smokescreen, alerted the troops. As the gas reached the fortifications and lines, soldiers began to complain of chest pains and a burning sensation in their throats. The soldiers realized that they were being gassed and many ran as fast as they could. After the first German chlorine gas attacks, Allied troops were given urine-soaked cotton masks; the urea in the pad had been found to neutralize chlorine. The pads were kept on the face until the gas dispersed.
Other soldiers preferred to wear a flannel bandana, sock, or sash, moistened with a baking soda solution and tied over the mouth and nose, until the gas passed. Soldiers found it difficult to fight like this, and attempts were made to develop better means of protection against gas attacks. The Elysian observers soon saw the military application of the gases and sent a report to Castra Tartaros. Castra Tartaros was founded during the Conquest of Yucatan. Only the military high command of Elysium knew of its existence as it was the largest and most sophisticated biological weapons (BW) production facility known. Emperor Lanius would be one of the most favorable Emperors for this type of facility to the point that he authorized test subjects to be selected to gather a broad cross-section of the population, mostly slaves and criminals, including several dozen abandoned babies. The development of gas weapons would be devastating to the enemies of Elysium.
On the other hand, the Technaum began researching a more effective variant of the relatively small and fast naval ship designed to carry self-propelled torpedoes created to counter both the Testuda Maris threat and other slow, heavily armed ships through the use of speed torpedoes. , agile and powerful, and the staggering cost of building a similar number of capital ships to counter the enemy. The ship would receive the name of "torpedo boat destroyers" (and later simply "Vestator" which meant Destroyer.) At the same time, the idea of a large caliber Testuda Maris. The designers of the battleships sought to provide the greatest possible protection, speed, and firepower in a ship of realistic size and cost. These would receive the name of Perditior but the rest of the nations would call it as Dreadnought.
One of the newest inventions was an improvement of the Telegraph made by the Maratha Empire. With the collaboration of the Techneum and the Societas Imperialis de Scientiae, a useful communication system was finally invented that could function over long distances. The Elysians called it Radio. It took twenty years for it to go from applying spark transmissions to audio. An Elysian Entrepreneur decided to create a radio news and entertainment program, all financed by the Empire and that in a matter of a few years huge signal towers transmitting radio waves, were erected throughout the Empire, and in an act of business They decided to share radio technology to the world at a cost. Now a man could talk to his family while he was in Alyaska as in Magna Sarmatia. Technology that was soon used by the army to coordinate military operations or even issue speeches like the weekly ones issued by the Pope from Rome.
By 1815, the armed forces of Elysium had as its youngest branch the Volatilis Auxilia (Flying Auxilia), the Volatilis Auxilia had in its inventory aerial beasts that received the name of the naval ships of antiquity based on the number of engines they had. . The bireme was an aircraft that served as a scout and messenger. The Trireme was considered an assault ship, equipped with nests of Polybolum that would harass enemies from the sky. But the real beasts were the Quadrireme which served as air transport and could act to deploy supplies and troops of a size of 200 men while the Quinquereme would be the deathbringer. Hardened against ground attacks by light weapons requiring a direct hit from an explosive shell behind the armor layer, it was armed with dozens of Polybolum and several simple systems, an Iria launch rail frame fitted with rockets. This weapon would have the reputation of destroying the morale of undisciplined or weakened troops even in the worst case scenario, deploying gaseous chemical weapons.
A fairly notable Airship class would be the Hexarema. Designed with the objective of carrying bombs that could be "dropped" on enemy positions or even cities or industry. Logically, it had an explosive load capacity considered light but that would be what we consider a light Bomber. His older brothers like the Septireme, Octeros, Enneres. They would stand out for having a higher load. In the middle of this creation the question arose. "And if there is an accident and the ship has to be evacuated?" It did not take too long to find the solution through the discovery of the parachute, which developed greater security measures.
Marcus tried to combat "hazing" in educational centers even with the formation of the so-called Centurias Discipulas Securitas (Student Security Centuries). The process was comparable to establishing a police in the schools. Although he was seen as having the possibility of the "Discipulum Securitas" abusing his position of authority, he decided to put a non-student Dux (Leader) to lead the groups. This Dux would make sure that the security code was not broken. Later, modernization would reach the curriculum adding courses in art, government and economics while in Military Art classes, the study of the campaigns of the Roman Empire was replaced with the study of the campaigns of the Elysian Empire. He allowed upper class students to leave the premises and authorized one student newspaper per school. Perhaps most revolutionary was a monthly allowance of 5 Denarius to students above certain grades, all with the aim of fostering competition.
By 1797, Marcus ascended the throne as his father's successor. But while this was happening, France suffered the worst possible fate: The Civil War. The French civil war or also called Revolution, came due to social and economic inequality between the nobility and the peasantry together with the rapid growth of the population and the inability to adequately finance the public debt caused economic depression, unemployment and high food prices. But one of the biggest thoughts was towards the great military losses during the war against England, when it landed and devastated the North of France. During this chaotic period, there were frequent riots, protests, and strikes. Apart from the fact that the Catholic population was in displeasure with the nobility that showed little respect towards religion and the Church.
On May 5, 1797, a mob formed to attack the Bastille, a royal fortress with large caches of arms and ammunition. The King ordered the mobilization of the Garde Nationale to crush this uprising, which quickly turned into an urban war fought from house to house. Until a flag began to wave on top of Notredame. A white and yellow flag stained with blood. This flag symbolized a France under the power of God and the Church. The church was the largest single landowner in France, controlling nearly 10% of all property and collecting tithes, effectively a 10% tax on income, collected from peasants in the form of crops. But after Italian Unification, the King of France dissolved religious orders and monasteries in France, while monks and nuns were encouraged to return to private life. The Pope and many French Catholics opposed this as it denied the Pope's authority over the French Christian nation.
The result was state-led persecution of "refractory clergy," many of whom were forced into exile, deported, or executed, bringing the civilian population closer to the clergy. The flag in the center of Paris, ran like lit gunpowder until it reached Rome and by the end of August. The worst nightmare dreamed by a French king since 1300, came true: The Templars returned. Supported by regiments that turned against their royalist officers, a scant 10,000 Templars, grouped in a Division, advanced against any kind of opposition but with every victory or mile advanced, it was an increased army. Until finally Paris was reached. Louis XVI prisoner of terror, surrendered. And the French people decided to end the French Monarchy, the new leader of France would be the Church itself.
The considered "papal annexation" of France, was viewed with total terror by England and the Protestant countries. England began a campaign to finance the French Protestant and Royalist forces within the same continent with money and weapons while they landed and occupied the Dutch Republic peacefully. The anti-papal revolts were in a barely perceived state of disarray; old soldiers of the Ancien Régime fought side by side with raw volunteers. The Catholic nations for the most part tried not to interfere, although the trade and supply of weapons were not denied. In the midst of this panorama, one of the greatest events occurred, when an artillery general of Corsican origin who would later become important, decided to allow the first use of chemical weapons in the form of gas. The general's response was used to justify chemical warfare against the heretical and Protestant enemy against opponents of this weapon.
"It is considered a legitimate mode of warfare to fill projectiles with molten metal which spreads among the enemy and produces the most gruesome forms of death. It is incomprehensible why a poisonous vapor that would kill men without suffering would be considered an illegitimate war. War it is destruction, and the more destructive it can be done with the least human suffering, the sooner that barbaric method will be done away with." The first chemical weapons bombardment was made near Neuve-Chapelle when Napoleon Bonaparte attacked Royalist, English and Protestant troops with chlorine gas released from boats and blown into enemy trenches. The effects were so brutally effective that when the Papal-French troops advanced they were met by emaciated soldiers, coats thrown or open wide, scarves ripped off, running like mad, directionless, screaming for water, spitting blood, some even rolling on the ground making desperate efforts to breathe.
Only a few managed to survive because they were protected by oxygen breathing apparatus for miners. The Papal army advanced when the yellow-green clouds with a characteristic smell, similar to pineapple and pepper, moved towards the allied trenches. The English officers, assuming at first that the Papist infantry were advancing behind a smokescreen, alerted the troops. As the gas reached the fortifications and lines, soldiers began to complain of chest pains and a burning sensation in their throats. The soldiers realized that they were being gassed and many ran as fast as they could. After the first German chlorine gas attacks, Allied troops were given urine-soaked cotton masks; the urea in the pad had been found to neutralize chlorine. The pads were kept on the face until the gas dispersed.
Other soldiers preferred to wear a flannel bandana, sock, or sash, moistened with a baking soda solution and tied over the mouth and nose, until the gas passed. Soldiers found it difficult to fight like this, and attempts were made to develop better means of protection against gas attacks. The Elysian observers soon saw the military application of the gases and sent a report to Castra Tartaros. Castra Tartaros was founded during the Conquest of Yucatan. Only the military high command of Elysium knew of its existence as it was the largest and most sophisticated biological weapons (BW) production facility known. Emperor Lanius would be one of the most favorable Emperors for this type of facility to the point that he authorized test subjects to be selected to gather a broad cross-section of the population, mostly slaves and criminals, including several dozen abandoned babies. The development of gas weapons would be devastating to the enemies of Elysium.
On the other hand, the Technaum began researching a more effective variant of the relatively small and fast naval ship designed to carry self-propelled torpedoes created to counter both the Testuda Maris threat and other slow, heavily armed ships through the use of speed torpedoes. , agile and powerful, and the staggering cost of building a similar number of capital ships to counter the enemy. The ship would receive the name of "torpedo boat destroyers" (and later simply "Vestator" which meant Destroyer.) At the same time, the idea of a large caliber Testuda Maris. The designers of the battleships sought to provide the greatest possible protection, speed, and firepower in a ship of realistic size and cost. These would receive the name of Perditior but the rest of the nations would call it as Dreadnought.
One of the newest inventions was an improvement of the Telegraph made by the Maratha Empire. With the collaboration of the Techneum and the Societas Imperialis de Scientiae, a useful communication system was finally invented that could function over long distances. The Elysians called it Radio. It took twenty years for it to go from applying spark transmissions to audio. An Elysian Entrepreneur decided to create a radio news and entertainment program, all financed by the Empire and that in a matter of a few years huge signal towers transmitting radio waves, were erected throughout the Empire, and in an act of business They decided to share radio technology to the world at a cost. Now a man could talk to his family while he was in Alyaska as in Magna Sarmatia. Technology that was soon used by the army to coordinate military operations or even issue speeches like the weekly ones issued by the Pope from Rome.
By 1815, the armed forces of Elysium had as its youngest branch the Volatilis Auxilia (Flying Auxilia), the Volatilis Auxilia had in its inventory aerial beasts that received the name of the naval ships of antiquity based on the number of engines they had. . The bireme was an aircraft that served as a scout and messenger. The Trireme was considered an assault ship, equipped with nests of Polybolum that would harass enemies from the sky. But the real beasts were the Quadrireme which served as air transport and could act to deploy supplies and troops of a size of 200 men while the Quinquereme would be the deathbringer. Hardened against ground attacks by light weapons requiring a direct hit from an explosive shell behind the armor layer, it was armed with dozens of Polybolum and several simple systems, an Iria launch rail frame fitted with rockets. This weapon would have the reputation of destroying the morale of undisciplined or weakened troops even in the worst case scenario, deploying gaseous chemical weapons.
A fairly notable Airship class would be the Hexarema. Designed with the objective of carrying bombs that could be "dropped" on enemy positions or even cities or industry. Logically, it had an explosive load capacity considered light but that would be what we consider a light Bomber. His older brothers like the Septireme, Octeros, Enneres. They would stand out for having a higher load. In the middle of this creation the question arose. "And if there is an accident and the ship has to be evacuated?" It did not take too long to find the solution through the discovery of the parachute, which developed greater security measures.
French during Revolution: Calm.
French seeing Templars landing in Marselle: PANIK.
Templars: ROUND TWO DEMONSPAWN FROGEATER.
Everybody gangsta until the sky start screaming Roman Aeterna and start raining Elysians airborne troops.
Forget about Kirov... that don't gonna exist. The Hexarema have several "bombing bay" who open up and then drop bombs.
like this
HAHA NERO REPORTING!Forget about Kirov... that don't gonna exist. The Hexarema have several "bombing bay" who open up and then drop bombs.
like this
It is really weird that the pope conquered France , plus even if the kings broke down a little the lands of the clergy , the clergy was still really ancient regime I don't see them coopting the revolution and I really see without the cooperation of the french people why the pope hope to accomplish.
Plus I don't see the Catholic kingdom of Spain or Austria be restrained ,at all considering that for them the secular world is above .
Plus I don't see the Catholic kingdom of Spain or Austria be restrained ,at all considering that for them the secular world is above .
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BadassFrench during Revolution: Calm.
French seeing Templars landing in Marselle: PANIK.
Templars: ROUND TWO DEMONSPAWN FROGEATER.
Everybody gangsta until the sky start screaming Roman Aeterna and start raining Elysians airborne troops.
Not necessarily. This is a time line where Europe becomes grossly overpopulated and has to settle for Africa for colonization. Lots of room for lots of people there yes, but there will be a lot of money spent to develop each colony. You also have to factor in that European wars and rivalries will still happen so the wars become winner takes all. But in a world where Elysium is THE superpower, Catholic sentiment towards non-Catholics likely reaches a fever pitch close to hysteria. So you have a world where Europeans are leaving Catholicism, trade/resources with the Americas and India are practically nonexistent, and European society has developed to 18th century thought but early 20th century technology. The panic of FRANCE leaving the faith to possibly becoming Protestant is one that the Pope would be consumed by. Meaning there would be no Catholic clergy as the peasants rose against all forms of the Ancién Regime. The Papacy has already unified Italy so forcibly annexing France into a Papal or Catholic Empire would ensure the church maintains its influence and wealth. Iberia (what Spain and Portugal are TTL) and Austria have sizable colonies in Africa but would ultimately have to accept annexation into the Papal Empire to assist in countering the growing influence of Protestantism. The Papacy has always been the spiritual head of Catholic Europe but now the Papacy is the political head as well. This is a major step and one likely to draw heat from Elysium and Protestants alike as the Pope has now effectively declared the office of the Papacy to hold the same position as the Emperor of Elysium. The Holy See would be the equivalent of the Elysian Senate.
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