No. The northern lands of the Neville (including Middleham) would be forfeited with the attainders of both Warwick and Montague or would be inherited by Montague’s son George as they were entailed to the male line.
Well, what both Richard and Mary wanted do not mattered much (neither was thrilled) and they married at the end of 1473 as their brothers wanted that match. In any case Berwick in OTL happened only in 1482 (ATL will NOT happen as the alliance between England and Scotland was already sealed by Richard and Mary‘s wedding AND the engagement between the future James IV and princess remained intact). James III would have liked better a match between his other sister Margaret and either of Edward IV’s older sons but they were already engaged to Portugal and Burgundy AND Gloucester was still a very good match (specially once Edward gave him Middleham and other estates lost by the Nevilles with the attainders of Warwick and Montagu)
Given his OTL attitude, I don't think Edward IV would force brother dearest to marry.
Well, that was the reason for which Richard married Mary and not Margaret... ATL Edward is a little different, plus he and James III both liked the idea of a double Anglo-Scottish match and needed to marry off soon a sibling: Richard would have gladly married Anne Neville (something who both Edward and Elizabeth were totally against, likely more than George) while Mary’s first wedding was annulled by her brother against her will (and she would have gladly return to her husband, if she had the chance)
OTL Edward, but we are talking about a different Edward (and about an Elizabeth much more different from her OTL counterpart)
Not sure how having another woman in the household would affect Edward's familial policies so drastically.
You have read the thread BEFORE contesting my choices on the base of the OTL personalities of people who here are very different?
Where was her hating the Nevilles directly stated? I only read the threadmarks.
True who many things I had already explained earlier are NOT in this thread (and looks like I would need to recover them if I can find them) but in the threadmarked history posts is explained pretty explicitly who Elizabeth see herself as Lancastrian and her family are her half-siblings not the Yorks and among her in-laws she is close only to Anne and Elizabeth. She arrived in the York household at 13 years old, against her will and suffering the separation from her mother, stepfather and half-siblings. Plus George and Richard were grown-up in Warwick’s household not the one of their parents so they are strangers for Elizabeth and Edward. And Cecily is NOT a mother figure for Elizabeth (whose mother is well alive and has a bad relationship with Cecily)
Lemme re read the whole thread.
Elizabeth IS a Lancaster AND she will NEVER forget that (or consent to anyone to forget it). She is married to a York and her children are Yorks and her first loyalty is to them, but that do not mean abandoning her roots. Elizabeth and Edward’s wedding had a bad start but eventually they ended falling in love (and she do not care at all about his mistresses). Plus after the death of Edward of Westminster, Elizabeth IS the legitimate heiress of the Lancasters and that made her more influential than ever but she had power and influence in abundance also in the first part of Edward’s reign AND before that...
Lancastrian? She barely knew her father. She'd remember his smile at most for story purposes.
It was a man's world back then, any influence she would've had would be over her husband, and through him, his supporters. Maybe she can bring some of the more moderate Lancastrians over to the Yorkists, but that's about it.
Why would she not care? Everyone would give a **** if their spouse was cheating on them, and AIUI, she NOT caring would be OOC.
Only thing mentioning Cis that I could find, tense relationships with Neville mother in law =/= hating the Nevilles.
