Eisenhower in the Pacific: Part 1 The Shoestring Warriors of Luzon

So, any chance of ammunition arriving from Australia or elsewhere is less than possible...
I think not impossible.

Just impractical in the quantities needed. Smaller transport planes and submarines, plus maybe some small boats travelling at night, are not the way to get massive stocks of ammunition around. And having 1 extra shell per gun (already impractically much) isn't going to do all that much.

Still, it might just be possible to keep enough of a trickle that the Japanese are still kept honest (as in, they know the Americans have almost no ammunition left, but can't be sure that there won't be guns blasting them in this particular instance so they have to operate as if the enemy has artillery).
 
are the 57 Bren gun carriers going to make an appearance anytime soon? the longer term butterflies are going to be very interesting...

and a butterfly I can think of is no Makin Island raid...since the PI are holding out much longer than OTL, wouldn't it make more sense to send
Nautilus and Argonaut to make supply runs...
 
Fair enough. Though his Dad pissed off a lot of Britons, he might make his way as a Naval Attache to England and perhaps prove himself away from Daddy's politicking.



Zert, remember at this time, Joe Jr., was still alive,and the Golden hope of the family, and he was an aviator.
 
I think not impossible.

Just impractical in the quantities needed. Smaller transport planes and submarines, plus maybe some small boats travelling at night, are not the way to get massive stocks of ammunition around. And having 1 extra shell per gun (already impractically much) isn't going to do all that much.

Still, it might just be possible to keep enough of a trickle that the Japanese are still kept honest (as in, they know the Americans have almost no ammunition left, but can't be sure that there won't be guns blasting them in this particular instance so they have to operate as if the enemy has artillery).

The submarines will likely be better off devoting the space to medical supplies, critical spare parts, or even small arms ammunition. They simply can't carry that much artillery ammunition anyway.
 
are the 57 Bren gun carriers going to make an appearance anytime soon? the longer term butterflies are going to be very interesting...

and a butterfly I can think of is no Makin Island raid...since the PI are holding out much longer than OTL, wouldn't it make more sense to send
Nautilus and Argonaut to make supply runs...
Actually I think the Marine Raiders could conduct raids in the Philippines like the British Commandos in Norway. Let the Filipino people know they are not forgotten. Better than raiding an obscure island in the Gilberts.
 
The submarines will likely be better off devoting the space to medical supplies, critical spare parts, or even small arms ammunition. They simply can't carry that much artillery ammunition anyway.

Agreed, but in OTL they carried the new 3-inch AA ammo that could reach the Japanese bombers (existing stocks couldn't). This improved morale so it was a worthwhile (even if ultimately futile) effort. But agreed, quinine was a priority need and didn't take as much space.
 
The Japanese are losing almost twice the casualties of the Americans at this rate, and if the Japanese are being rushed, then their suicidal charge tactics will only be worse for them...
 
A savage mauling: Why the Japanese attack failed at 1st Bataan
A savage mauling
The Japanese primary attack during 1st Bataan was by the older reservists of the 65th Brigade and the veterans of the 4th Division, supported by most of the 14th Army artillery and 100 tanks. It fell upon 6 regiments of American and Filipino troops of the 12th US and 1st Philippine Divisions in the hardest fighting of the campaign so far. The American/Filipinos defense line consisted of an outpost line held by 12 companies of infantry in platoon outposts (dug in for all around defense), a main line of defense held by another 12 companies of infantry plus the battalion and regimental heavy weapons (machine guns and mortars) companies, also entrenched for all around defense, and a reserve line held by 12 more companies of infantry (again entrenched for all around defense) where the divisional 75 mm field guns, anti tank guns and 4 batteries of .50 caliber machine guns from the Filipino 3rd Coast Artillery Regiment were dug in. Behind these lines were the divisional and corps artillery (French and American 105 mm guns and a pair of batteries of French 155 guns).

In front of the outpost line was a 50 meter stretch of minefields and barbed wire, while communications trenches connected the three lines of defense. All artillery was preregistered, and while most of the mines were makeshift (improvised from 3 inch mortar rounds and command detonated by wire) the wire and mines were enough, in the face of heavy artillery fire, to make the initial Japanese attempt a bloody shambles. Even using infiltration tactics it took the Japanese 2 days to clear the main defense line and push the American and Filipino troops back, and the nature of the fighting was very much reminiscent of the Great War.

By the time the Japanese penetrated this line, the first American reserves were up, including additional heavy machine guns manned by Marines from the 1st Separate Battalion and Filipino Coast Defense troops from the 4th Coast Artillery. Also assisting in the initial counterattack were 50 Bren Gun Carriers which were used as heavy machine gun carriers, plus the reserve infantry companies from the reserve line and every single gun that could bear. Japanese losses by the third day were running at 50% or more of their attack force, with most officers dead or wounded, many of the more energetic NCOs also lost, and and tank losses were also running high. In the face of the withering artillery and heavy machine gun fire, the last gasp of the attack were mowed down with Japanese companies reduced to weak platoons.

The counterattack by dismounted Cavalry troopers of the 26th Cavalry and troopers riding on scout cars, trucks and on the back of tanks of the 112th Cavalry, plus the engineers from the 12th and 23rd Engineer battalions and the tanks of the 192nd and 194th was the crowning blow. Advancing under heavy artillery support, the American cavalry and armor shattered a final last gasp attack by Japanese tanks and engineers, wrecking two Japanese tank regiments (battalion sized organizations) and an engineer regiment, and the Japanese retreat was hurried enough to almost be considered a route. Only the die hard defenders of a Japanese anti – tank battalion with their 47 mm guns and several infantry companies which had to be rooted out position by position bought the time for the rest of the two Japanese formations to retreat with a semblance of order.

American losses were not cheap however. Most of the infantry companies in the outpost and main line of defense took serious to severe losses, and indeed a company of the 13th Infantry Regiment (PA) was reduced in size to a single squad lead by a 2nd Lieutenant Ferdinand Marcus which was finally wiped out on day 3 after being cut off for three days. His recommendation for a Medal of Honor was later downgraded to a Distinguished Service Cross which was awarded post war to his family. However a more successful stand by Company C, 1st Battalion, 1st Infantry Regiment (PA) by 1st Lieutenant (and then Captain) Ramon Magsaysay whose company was in the outpost line and blocked the narrow track that the Japanese considered their primary attack against the 1st Division not only held up the Japanese for two days, but he led 45 survivors back to the mainline of defense, took over command of the 1st Battalion after his seniors were killed or wounded, and retreated skillfully in the face of the enemy until reinforcements from the 101st Infantry Regiment reached him, allowing him to hold in place and then regain ultimately the forward position where his company had started. His Medal of Honor was awarded in 1944 and would carry him to high office in the Republic of the Philippines, ultimately the Presidency in 1953.

The Japanese attack was skillfully carried out, well supported and indeed with reserves could have carried the American and Philippine positions (and indeed did push through the main line of defense). The primary Japanese error was underestimating the firepower and skill of the defense, and assuming that they could route the enemy out of well supported and defended positions by flanking action. As it turns out there were no flanks to be turned due to the nature of the defensive position (prepared for all around defense) and even cutting them off was difficult due to reserves who could counterattack and bring forward ammunition as needed. But finally the attack failed because attrition had so reduced the Japanese attack that it simply was not strong enough to hold off a combined arms counterattack by American and Filipino tanks, light artillery, heavy machine guns, engineers and well trained infantry.
 
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authors notes: A more nuts and bolts look at why the Japanese attack failed

based on a combination of World War I tactics, infiltration tactics by the Japanese, and what a difference firepower makes when flanks are not threatened.

Also two OTL Presidents of the Philippines get a mention (yes both were at Bataan)
 
The Japanese hit a meat grinder...I'm thinking that the overall warplan is like a bicycle moving at full speed that had a broomstick shoved in the front wheel...
 
The Japanese hit a meat grinder...I'm thinking that the overall warplan is like a bicycle moving at full speed that had a broomstick shoved in the front wheel...

modeled on the results of the Japanese attack in the New Georgia Campaign in 1944, although that was even more one sided.

These weren't Banzai charges by the way, but carefully thought out efforts to infiltrate through the defenses with the main attack force while reserve troops mopped up the pockets of resistance. It just didn't work out as well as hoped. Another division in reserve likely would have resulted in a break through though. That division was not available.

So now its a siege
 
At what point do the Japanese decide to just isolate Bataan and let the garrison die on the vine? I realize that denies that Manila's harbor but enough is enough...
 
Well a very hard lesson learned, but the Japanese will come much harder next time. With extra troops, more artillery, and possibly naval gun support, they may well break the US and Filipino lines. That the US and Filipinos have used up most of their cannon ammunition will also hamper the defenders. They can still bleed the Japanese, but they may have to fall back.

Did I read it right and Marcus died in the later actions? If so, then he will not become a dictator and Imelda may not gain her warehouses of shoes ITTL. :p
 
At what point do the Japanese decide to just isolate Bataan and let the garrison die on the vine? I realize that denies that Manila's harbor but enough is enough...

they took losses not much worse historically (although Malaria did more of the killing)

but at this point they are going to do exactly that until troops are available after securing the more important objectives further south (which also what they did historically). At this point the 38th Division will arrive just so it can take over the line so that the other 2 divisions and division sized brigade can be rebuilt

The Navy however will not be providing any more Special Naval Landing Force troops for a while
 
Well a very hard lesson learned, but the Japanese will come much harder next time. With extra troops, more artillery, and possibly naval gun support, they may well break the US and Filipino lines. That the US and Filipinos have used up most of their cannon ammunition will also hamper the defenders. They can still bleed the Japanese, but they may have to fall back.

Did I read it right and Marcus died in the later actions? If so, then he will not become a dictator and Imelda may not gain her warehouses of shoes ITTL. :p

Marcus died in THIS action..... and no shoes for Imelda (chuckle)
also no false claims by him for medals he never earned in OTL

Magsaysay was a real hero though, and he pretty much defeated the Hukbalahap Rebellion as the Secretary of Defense and then President of the Philippines, so I am assuming significant military competence on his part.
 
Marcus died in THIS action..... and no shoes for Imelda (chuckle)
also no false claims by him for medals he never earned in OTL

Magsaysay was a real hero though, and he pretty much defeated the Hukbalahap Rebellion as the Secretary of Defense and then President of the Philippines, so I am assuming significant military competence on his part.

Thanks for confirming what I thought I read. I agree, Marcos was a bully who killed to stay in power and Imelda in the newest pumps.

Magsaysay, as you truthfully say, was a hero and earned the recognition that you received.
 
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