EIC conquers Qing during Taiping rebellion
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Pretty implausible. Doubt they had the manpower or the will to pull it off.
Also worth noting that the EIC had lost the China monopoly in the 1830s. Not sure they'd be up for conquering the place in its entirety 20 years later.
Indian Mutiny was 1857-8. Taiping Rebellion didn't end until 1864?
Also worth noting that the EIC had lost the China monopoly in the 1830s. Not sure they'd be up for conquering the place in its entirety 20 years later.
Indian Mutiny was 1857-8. Taiping Rebellion didn't end until 1864?
It will be the very thing that causes the mutiny. The Indian soldiers were largely unwilling to travel by ship overseas because of religious practices. The EIC increasing lack of regard for it’s employees’ religious requirements was a major factor in the mutiny.The EIC orders them to do it and it will be it.
There needs to be a sizeable force to be sent to China and a period of time before a group of Chinese can be trained up to standard to substitute whatever Indians or Europeans.In order for such a venture to succeed, you need direct, large scale British government involvement to send British European regulars.
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Large amount of Loot >>>> Sea taboos.
Besides , the EIC could do less to anger local elites by annexing their territory .
Its biggest problem will be the cost of the venture, the mutiny bankrupted otl it and if this invasion ends up being a long dragged out war , they may as well suffer the same fate .
If they end up succeeding , they will probably vassalize areas adjacent to India ( Tibet and Tarim Basin ) , annexing some Coastal cities and making Qing a Protectorate
Losing your caste >>>>>>large amount of loot.You need to cross the sea before even seeing the loot.
probably but i think the Government would eventually take control directly
The first thing is, before 1900 China is more centralized than 1800 India was. The kind of takeover that worked in India could not work in China regardless.
Then, as others have said, people would rebel before going to China. At the very least, enough would that the EIC doesn't have the manpower to do its campaign anyways.
Plus, 'butterflying' does not work that way. It refers to preventing something that happened OTL, not an equivalent but differently happening event from ATL.
Then, as others have said, people would rebel before going to China. At the very least, enough would that the EIC doesn't have the manpower to do its campaign anyways.
Plus, 'butterflying' does not work that way. It refers to preventing something that happened OTL, not an equivalent but differently happening event from ATL.
That doesn't help. The EIC aren't Mongols. Their existence relies on profiting from trade. Plundering China like a Mongol warlord does not help with that. Setting up a puppet to trade with might work, but it still wouldn't fix the resentment and the falling profit margins.
Even the conquest of India wasn't deliberate, but a mindless quest for profit.