Effects Of Islamic India -

Will An Islamic Subcontinent be Better than a Hindu One ?

  • Yes

    Votes: 20 34.5%
  • No

    Votes: 38 65.5%

  • Total voters
    58
Not necessarily, Something like the Theological elites using Arabic and Other using Indian Languages
There not such thing as theological elite in pure sense, all Muslim are required to learn Arabic even if just spoken for prayers, if anything the Indian based language of the first converts will be the Indian language period. As the judge for secular affairs will still wrote their sentences in Arabic, and whatever Hindi language they spoke before. That might help literacy people learning both Arabic and the Hindi language. expect a lot of minor language to got extint now
 
There not such thing as theological elite in pure sense, all Muslim are required to learn Arabic even if just spoken for prayers, if anything the Indian based language of the first converts will be the Indian language period. As the judge for secular affairs will still wrote their sentences in Arabic, and whatever Hindi language they spoke before. That might help literacy people learning both Arabic and the Hindi language. expect a lot of minor language to got extint now
Should have used the right word, Theological elite here refers to islamic clergy, who eould be required to learn Arabic, and yes, And Indic based language would become co official with Arabic in the state of realm
 
Should have used the right word, Theological elite here refers to islamic clergy, who eould be required to learn Arabic, and yes, And Indic based language would become co official with Arabic in the state of realm
So that is how the nation would evolve linguistically, with some Arabic variation/creole born in the cultural infusion.

That is cultural and religious..the most important now... How will evolve politically?
 
So that is how the nation would evolve linguistically, with some Arabic variation/creole born in the cultural infusion.

That is cultural and religious..the most important now... How will evolve politically?
The ruling system would be similar to many Indian Sultanate that were established, except it would accommodate the Caliph if he resided in India

Perhaps Caliph as the top leader, with the country essentially operating like a Sultanate, but the leader being Caliph and his royal family
 
The ruling system would be similar to many Indian Sultanate that were established, except it would accommodate the Caliph if he resided in India

Perhaps Caliph as the top leader, with the country essentially operating like a Sultanate, but the leader being Caliph and his royal family
Yeah so even more court politics, per Tradition.

The rest..well how the nation will evolved and if India would be the one to kickstar an earlier age of exploration
 
Yeah so even more court politics, per Tradition.

The rest..well how the nation will evolved and if India would be the one to kickstar an earlier age of exploration
Yes, and A united India will be even more of a kickstarter

The court politics would be extra complicated due to Caliph also being a position of power
 
I could see it happening, One other effects I could see happening is that Central Asia might retain their Indic influence over the new Perso Islamic heritage


Yes, Muslims do not have a caste system, especially ingrained in their system and culture, it is shat that held India back at middle ages, it might be beneficial for India to be without caste
This is not true, South Asian Muslims still do follow a caste system, and prominently so the division of Ashraf and Ajlaf peoples. They existed and there is a prominent Dalit Muslim movement that formed after independence calling for social equality in both India and Pakistan.
 
This is not true, South Asian Muslims still do follow a caste system, and prominently so the division of Ashraf and Ajlaf peoples. They existed and there is a prominent Dalit Muslim movement that formed after independence calling for social equality in both India and Pakistan.
But it occured due to living in close proximity to Hindus, if most if not all hindus are converted, than caste system melts away
 
But it occured due to living in close proximity to Hindus, if most if not all hindus are converted, than caste system melts away
There is still the culture of the Indian subcontinent. Caste as a cultural institution remains regardless of the religion, and it would take a lot longer for caste to melt away. Being present among Muslim indians, the practice would simply shape into a different form, especially with an Arab. influx.
 
There is still the culture of the Indian subcontinent. Caste as a cultural institution remains regardless of the religion, and it would take a lot longer for caste to melt away. Being present among Muslim indians, the practice would simply shape into a different form, especially with an Arab. influx.
That can be true, the Arab mannerism and culture would perhaps become the new High caste
 
That can be true, the Arab mannerism and culture would perhaps become the new High caste
That depend who become the main force in the Islamization of India, Ummayyads never enforced the anti arab supremacist measure their wali never put(and some Ummayads just didn't care) when Abbasadid at least even tried, so depend, if conquered very early, the caste system would die with the Hindus as too much pagan
 
That depend who become the main force in the Islamization of India, Ummayyads never enforced the anti arab supremacist measure their wali never put(and some Ummayads just didn't care) when Abbasadid at least even tried, so depend, if conquered very early, the caste system would die with the Hindus as too much pagan
Yes, It would also be difficult to enforce their authority on such a large and far away region with its own long history of intricate cultures and religion, Caste system would vanish away, as it is unfortunately intrinsically became linked to Hinduism after the Gupta era, Perhaps the Highculture would be a Fusion of Indo and Arab Traditions, but it is still doubtful, if there was any group of people who would be elites, what would be their high culture, Islamised Sanskrit Culture ?
 
Yes, It would also be difficult to enforce their authority on such a large and far away region with its own long history of intricate cultures and religion, Caste system would vanish away, as it is unfortunately intrinsically became linked to Hinduism after the Gupta era, Perhaps the Highculture would be a Fusion of Indo and Arab Traditions, but it is still doubtful, if there was any group of people who would be elites, what would be their high culture, Islamised Sanskrit Culture ?
The Islamicized indian culture that had its roots in caste system revolved around those that were foreign Arabs and other elites known as Ashraf who were nobles. These elites were above Muslim Rajputs. Imperial Waziris were also promoted and demoted based on whether they were Ashraf or Aljaf. Arzal, or degraded castes were most Muslims who were Dalits.
 
The Islamicized indian culture that had its roots in caste system revolved around those that were foreign Arabs and other elites known as Ashraf who were nobles. These elites were above Muslim Rajputs. Imperial Waziris were also promoted and demoted based on whether they were Ashraf or Aljaf. Arzal, or degraded castes were most Muslims who were Dalits.
That is true in OTL, it can be perhaps seen in TTL as well
 
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