samcster94
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In OTL, Cuba only got independence in 1898 and PR not at all. What if that happened by 1830??? I know loyalists went to the islands in OTL, but there were people who wanted independence though.
Umm got independence during that, full without nobody meddling? besides showing spain growing even weaker that ever wonder how that might affect puerto rico and philippines....the rest Cuban Economy will be the traditional of the time, based on Slavery(unless abolished since the independance) till x years and later peonage/rancheria with Tobacco and Sugar as king..that will be interesting repercusion in a lot of countries...In OTL, Cuba only got independence in 1898 and PR not at all. What if that happened by 1830??? I know loyalists went to the islands in OTL, but there were people who wanted independence though.
How and Why?A Cuba independent in the 1830 will quickly be added to the US
The why is easy, the US was looking for prime real estate when the war with Mexico occurred. There will be a change on Manifest Destiny to include The Carribean. Good news the MLB will end up with two good teams in Havana and Santiago
Ah, and Santiago's hometown hero Fidel Castro is elected to Cooperstown as one of the defining baseball players of the 50s. It's still debated whether Castro's younger brother Raúl likewise belongs there.
Supposedly Castro wasn't that much of a player, but given his ability to inspire, I see him as a career minor-leaguer who makes it bigger as a manager. His brother would naturally be his trusted third-base coach and probably hold some other position on Fidel's staff.
As for Cuba as part of the US...keep in mind that probably happens pre-Civil War, so the slavery divide is huge. I wonder if this averts or delays the Civil War, given that the Compromise of 1850 crapped up the balance between slave and free states when California was admitted as a free state and there was no state to admit to balance the numbers a la the Missouri Compromise. In this case, if California is admitted as a free state, Cuba being admitted as a slave state may balance things out a bit and make the Fugitive Slave Act unnecessary or not as forceful (it looked like a scrap tossed to the South because it lost the California decision, and the Sout largely felt the Compromise of 1850 was a "the hell with you, South" decision.)
I think the division was too stark between the two sides to avert the Civil War altogether even if Cuba becomes a slave state, but one has to wonder if Spain doesn't get tossed into the mix of nations that could help the South, thereby giving them a shot at independence.
A Cuba independent in the 1830 will quickly be added to the US
How and Why?
Yea I'm a bit doubtful as well. They'll share slavery but I don't think much of the US will want to bring that many Catholics into the Union, even as a slave state. The US in 1830 was 13 million while Cuba was 1 million. As a single state Cuba would be third or fourth in number of representatives and splitting it only gives them more senators.