Edward VIII marriage question

If Edward had never met Wallis or decided to drop her for the throne, who would be 'appropriate' marriage options for him to be King?

Thanks in Advance for any information.
 
If Edward had never met Wallis or decided to drop her for the throne, who would be 'appropriate' marriage options for him to be King?

Thanks in Advance for any information.
Given his sexual preferences, he's certainly going to have a mistress who can meet those 'needs'. OTOH, he doesn't have to demand to marry her:)

It's still going to be interesting to see if he manages to have heirs with his wife...

No, I don't have any candidates. However, they either have to put up with that mistress or the marriage will be really rocky....
 
Given his sexual preferences, he's certainly going to have a mistress who can meet those 'needs'. OTOH, he doesn't have to demand to marry her:)

It's still going to be interesting to see if he manages to have heirs with his wife...

No, I don't have any candidates. However, they either have to put up with that mistress or the marriage will be really rocky....

I see no realistic candidates either. Perhaps he remains unmarried. Upon his death in 1972, as per OTL, he is succeeded by either his elderly brother Albert, Duke of York, or his neice, (Albert's daughter) Elizabeth.
 
Had Mr. Simpson met an untimely death, Mrs. Simpson might have been looked down on, but religiously free to marry him. (According to CoE law (Based on Romans 7:1-3), a divorce is ignored if one of the parties is dead. Thus, the Duchess of Cornwall is a divorcee, but HRH Prince Charles is not...)
Of course, there still is a stigma...
 
Had Mr. Simpson met an untimely death, Mrs. Simpson might have been looked down on, but religiously free to marry him. (According to CoE law (Based on Romans 7:1-3), a divorce is ignored if one of the parties is dead.


Except that her first husband, Earl Spencer, was still living.

However, what if would have done was make her legally free to marry, since her first divorce was long since absolute. So it is conceivable that Edward could have made the marriage a fait accompli before the government could get its act together.

Probably he'd still have had to abdicate, but it would have been harder to deny his wife the Royal Style had she been however briefly, Queen of Britain.
 
An interesting question (the original one) and the answer is preferably a Protestant royal, then if not an Orthodox royal, and if not then someone almost royal, and if not, since his brother has married into the aristocracy that would be tolerated

Before the First World War there was some talk of maybe a Russian match, but the Grand Duchesses are dead, it was maybe just talk, it had the unfortunate precedent of Alfred's marriage, and Edward was Edward

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Grey Wolf
 
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So there isn't really isn't any appropriate marriage option for Edward VIII. Would he still be aloud to stay on the throne if he wanted to marry a commoner (not an aristocrat or royal) who is not as controversial as Mrs. Simpson?

I was just wondering about alternate brides for Edward, but given his reputation it seems there are not really any specific brides.

Thank You for any future replies.
 
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So there isn't really isn't any appropriate marriage option for Edward VIII. Would he still be aloud to stay on the throne if he wanted to marry a commoner (not an aristocrat or royal) who is not as controversial as Mrs. Simpson?


Almost certainly. It would have caused some raising of eyebrows, but without the divorce issue it would have been accepted.

Edward was an immature type, possibly looking for a "mother substitute", as his real mother, Queen Mary, was a rather cold personality. So he might have gone for a widow, perhaps an officer's wife widowed in the First World War. That would certainly have been accepted.
 
Edward was an immature type, possibly looking for a "mother substitute", as his real mother, Queen Mary, was a rather cold personality. So he might have gone for a widow, perhaps an officer's wife widowed in the First World War. That would certainly have been accepted.

Why not aristocratic?

Were there any young aristocratic British widows in Edward´s social circle who he could reasonably have married?
 
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So there isn't really isn't any appropriate marriage option for Edward VIII. Would he still be aloud to stay on the throne if he wanted to marry a commoner (not an aristocrat or royal) who is not as controversial as Mrs. Simpson?

I was just wondering about alternate brides for Edward, but given his reputation it seems there are not really any specific brides.

Thank You for any future replies.

Its not that there are no suitable brides - there are plenty, depending on what date you are looking at

For example, before 1931 there is Princess Ileana of Rumania

The question is simply whether he meets, likes, wants to marry them

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Grey Wolf
 
I see no realistic candidates either. Perhaps he remains unmarried. Upon his death in 1972, as per OTL, he is succeeded by either his elderly brother Albert, Duke of York, or his neice, (Albert's daughter) Elizabeth.

Actually, it would have gone to Prince Henry, Duke of Gloucester (Henry IX), who died in '74 and would have left the throne to Prince Richard, Duke of Gloucester, who would be Richard IV.
 
Actually, it would have gone to Prince Henry, Duke of Gloucester (Henry IX), who died in '74 and would have left the throne to Prince Richard, Duke of Gloucester, who would be Richard IV.

Why? It would have gone to Elizabeth by the rule of primogeniture.

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Grey Wolf
 
Why? It would have gone to Elizabeth by the rule of primogeniture.

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Grey Wolf

No, Elizabeth II is the daughter of George VI.

Edward VIII having died without issue, the Crown would pass to the next oldest son of George V (indeed, the only surviving son of George V in 1972), Prince Henry; when he dies in 1974, it would pass to his oldest son, Prince Richard.
 
No, Elizabeth II is the daughter of George VI.

Edward VIII having died without issue, the Crown would pass to the next oldest son of George V (indeed, the only surviving son of George V in 1972), Prince Henry; when he dies in 1974, it would pass to his oldest son, Prince Richard.


It would still go to Elizabeth, who would inherit her father's place in the line of succession.
 
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From Wikipedia's page on the British monarchy:

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Succession is governed by male-preference cognatic primogeniture, under which sons inherit before daughters, and elder children inherit before younger ones of the same sex.
 
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So the throne goes to Edward and his children, failing these to Albert (George VI) and his, failing them to Gloucester and his, failing them to Kent and his.

A brother (even a younger one) would have preceded Elizabeth, but not an uncle. Queen Victoria had several uncles still living when she ascended the throne.
 
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No - this is puting the cart before the horse - you're completely abandoning George VI's line of succession. This takes priority over all else. After Edward's death, succession goes through his next eldest brother, which is most definetley the Duke of York (OTL's George VI.) If he has died, then his children, irrelevant of sex. Elizabeth's place would only be overriden if she had a brother. It's only when a line of descent is completely extinct that it goes through the next brother of the previous king and his line.

This is exactly how it went with Victoria - She had paternal uncles as well. They didn't overtake her in the succession though, because they were younger than her father. Brothers overtake sisters, uncles don't overtake nieces.
 
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Why not aristocratic?

Were there any young aristocratic British widows in Edward´s social circle who he could reasonably have married?

In casual British literature of the period (Dorothy Sayers mystery novels, for example), I've seen upper-class female characters gossiping excitedly about "meeting the Prince of Wales." I've always assumed that it was because they saw him as an eligible bachelor, and themselves as plausible wives for him. So I wouldn't assume that he'd need to go to foreign royalty rather than English aristocracy.
 
No, Elizabeth II is the daughter of George VI.

Edward VIII having died without issue, the Crown would pass to the next oldest son of George V (indeed, the only surviving son of George V in 1972), Prince Henry; when he dies in 1974, it would pass to his oldest son, Prince Richard.

No, the line of succession is eldest son followed by his descendants, then next son followed by his descendants.... Which is why William, not Andrew, will become King if the Queen outlives Charles.
 
What were Edward's sexual preferences? Maybe its common knowledge, but I for one am not "in the know", anyone care to elucidate?
 
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