Edward VIII and after.

A couple British Royal what-ifs:

1) What if Edward VII had remained on the throne - either buckles under and agrees not to marry Wallis Simpson, or the government/church let him do so. So, he reigns until his death in 1972 - would the UK be much different because of this or would the changes be mostly superficial.

2) As in OTL, Edward and Wallis have no children. When he dies in 1972, would Elizabeth be next in line (assuming here the rest of the royal family procreated as in OTL)? With 20 fewer years on the throne at this point would she still be viewed as favorably as she currently is in OTL?
 
A couple British Royal what-ifs:

1) What if Edward VII had remained on the throne - either buckles under and agrees not to marry Wallis Simpson, or the government/church let him do so. So, he reigns until his death in 1972 - would the UK be much different because of this or would the changes be mostly superficial.

2) As in OTL, Edward and Wallis have no children. When he dies in 1972, would Elizabeth be next in line (assuming here the rest of the royal family procreated as in OTL)? With 20 fewer years on the throne at this point would she still be viewed as favorably as she currently is in OTL?
I still need to think of some of your questions but I am sure that Elizabeth would succeed her uncle as her father, Albert, Duke of York, I can see may live a little longer minus the stress of being King as George VI, but his health would most likely still see his passing prior to his brother as it did in real time.

I wonder how Princess Margaret of York's romantic life might evolve? Might Edward VIII since he couldn't have the woman he love, be more sympathetic to his nieces love interest? Especially if her father the Duke of York may not be in the picture? (Assuming he may have passed away by this time). And since her sister lets' say does marry Philip, and she also has Charles and Anne by now, Margarets position is not so vital as the succession is secure.
 
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Edward VIII remaining on throne wouldn't change much when monarchs hadn't anymore much power. Even the king's pro-Nazi have not any matter when he wouldn't be allowed speak to media. And Elizabeth would still succeed Edward VIII. One intresting thing is that QEII might be more willingful abdicate when there is not EVIII's abdication.
 
Uh, the King can speak to the media, there's the traditional Christmas speech....and Dimwit David (the family called E8 David) could and probably would pull a stunt like he did in real life: radio talk to everyone (but UK) about how war is pointless from Verdun. Except he'd do it in England.

The big problem back would be how NOT to get the cabinet to resign. Baldwin already had that card (that no one would form a government) in hand before discussing things with the King. If E8 proceeded with the objective of marriage in which Wallis would be Queen, it would lead to an election with a primary focus on Bessie Wallis Warfield Spencer Simpson and her two living husbands. And her mother's questionable reputation and the fact that Wallis was conceived out of wedlock. Not things E8 would want bandied about on the subject of his 'perfect woman.'

Which leads to this possibility: the King's Proctor intervening and finding proof of collusion (the information Wallis gave the detective about where to find her husband and his 'ladyfriend'). It could be proved, probably with little effort. Remember, most people back then were dead on divorce - and a woman having TWO divorces? The brazen hussy.

No abdication for Elizabeth II, who was raised to Duty above self. She's not going to abdicate no matter what dimwit David did in 1936. There's no reason for her to. She can delegate duties to Charles and William (maybe not Harry right now), the Princess Royal, Randy Andy and her youngest son Edward and relax at home, all without abdicating. Nobody wants her to abdicate (well, maybe the anti-monarchists), so the populace will be happy with her as the relaxed queen rather than King Charles.
 
Edward VIII remaining on throne wouldn't change much when monarchs hadn't anymore much power. Even the king's pro-Nazi have not any matter when he wouldn't be allowed speak to media. And Elizabeth would still succeed Edward VIII. One intresting thing is that QEII might be more willingful abdicate when there is not EVIII's abdication.
Edward VIII would have become very patriotic when war came. After all, they are fighting in his name. Without the scandalous abdication that Edward VIII had, and with the precedence set by other monarchs in Europe, (More like retirements), Dutch Queens, Wilhelmina, Juliana and Beatrix, Luxembourg's Grand Duchess Charlotte and Grand Duke Jean, she might look at it as a chance to say, "I have done my duty, now it's my son's turn to reign." Of course both Belgium's kings, Leopold III and Albert II, and Spain's King Juan Carlos abdicated with some not so nice clouds over them, who knows.
 

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This is assuming Eddie Ocho doesn't just piss away the good will and fortune the monarchy has and causes it to dissolve?
 
Edward VIII would have become very patriotic when war came. After all, they are fighting in his name. Without the scandalous abdication that Edward VIII had, and with the precedence set by other monarchs in Europe, (More like retirements), Dutch Queens, Wilhelmina, Juliana and Beatrix, Luxembourg's Grand Duchess Charlotte and Grand Duke Jean, she might look at it as a chance to say, "I have done my duty, now it's my son's turn to reign." Of course both Belgium's kings, Leopold III and Albert II, and Spain's King Juan Carlos abdicated with some not so nice clouds over them, who knows.
He was always pro-German, and a friend to Nazis. Would this change? ...even with war? I see him letting it be quietly known he favored an Armistice after Dunkirk
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He was always pro-German, and a friend to Nazis. Would this change? ...even with war? I see him letting it be quietly known he favored an Armistice after Dunkirk
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If he doesn’t shift his stance, it’ll be the point where he’d clash with Churchill, who supported him in the OTL Abdication crisis.
 
If he doesn’t shift his stance, it’ll be the point where he’d clash with Churchill, who supported him in the OTL Abdication crisis.
And as I said, once war is a reality, and he is "the King", he will fall in line and support his troops and his people. He has no real political power to force an armistice, and you are right, Churchill will never surrender, and Edward VIII will fall into line.
 
No abdication for Elizabeth II, who was raised to Duty above self. She's not going to abdicate no matter what dimwit David did in 1936. There's no reason for her to. She can delegate duties to Charles and William (maybe not Harry right now), the Princess Royal, Randy Andy and her youngest son Edward and relax at home, all without abdicating. Nobody wants her to abdicate (well, maybe the anti-monarchists), so the populace will be happy with her as the relaxed queen rather than King Charles.

There is not any reason why she wouldn't abdicate. One of major reason why she doesn't do that in OTL is scandalous abdication of Edward VIII. But ITTL she might be willingful do that due high age and some health issues. It is not unseen thing in European monarchies. Check Netherlands, Luxembourg and Vatican. And even emperor Akihito is going to do that very soon.
 
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