Edward V born in 1466

So this is a revival of a thread I'd started sometime last year.

The premise is that Edward V instead of being born in 1470 is born in 1466 as a the twin brother of Elizabeth of York, who in otl married Henry Tudor.

So with Edward IV now having a male heir in 1466, this is three years befoer Warwick rebels. What consequences might this have for the actions of Warwick and Clarence in the immediate short term? Would Warwick still rebel, using Clarence as a figure head? Would they rebel in 1469/1470 or would they wait for later on?

How might this influence the Lancastrian camp now that the Yorkist dynasty is somewhat more secure?
 
The premise is that Edward V instead of being born in 1470 is born in 1466 as a the twin brother of Elizabeth of York, who in otl married Henry Tudor.

So with Edward IV now having a male heir in 1466, this is three years befoer Warwick rebels. What consequences might this have for the actions of Warwick and Clarence in the immediate short term? Would Warwick still rebel, using Clarence as a figure head? Would they rebel in 1469/1470 or would they wait for later on?

How might this influence the Lancastrian camp now that the Yorkist dynasty is somewhat more secure?

To secure their alliance, King Edward IV may ask his son to marry Anne Neville, eldest daughter of John Neville, 1st Marquess of Montagu, with the you lady being taken as a ward of the king, making sure John Neville, does not seek to support the Lancastrian claim.

Being 17, rather then 13, when his father died, would definitely cause trouble for his uncle, Richard, duke of Gloucester as the 17 year old could claim, he doesn't need a regent and would put up more of a fight.

With a secured heir, the rebellion would also be in trouble as support may be lost from their cause, with the next in line being a child.
 
To secure their alliance, King Edward IV may ask his son to marry Anne Neville, eldest daughter of John Neville, 1st Marquess of Montagu, with the you lady being taken as a ward of the king, making sure John Neville, does not seek to support the Lancastrian claim.

Being 17, rather then 13, when his father died, would definitely cause trouble for his uncle, Richard, duke of Gloucester as the 17 year old could claim, he doesn't need a regent and would put up more of a fight.

With a secured heir, the rebellion would also be in trouble as support may be lost from their cause, with the next in line being a child.


Interesting though would Edward iv not want to look abroad for a marriage to his son and to make sure Neville influence didn't grow?

Hmm aye I do doubt Edward iv would ask for a regent for his son as well

Hmm interesting would it still happen?
 
Interesting though would Edward iv not want to look abroad for a marriage to his son and to make sure Neville influence didn't grow?

Hmm aye I do doubt Edward iv would ask for a regent for his son as well

Hmm interesting would it still happen?

Anne Neville was just an idea as Edward IV has already proposing Elizabeth to marry John's son, George Neville, future Duke of Bedford.

As for a marriage abroad, there are a few options:
- Kunigunde of Austria, the daughter of Frederick III, Holy Roman Emperor and his wife Eleanor of Portugal, daughter of King Edward of Portugal.
- Anne and Joan of France, Both daughters of Louis XI of France and his second wife, Charlotte of Savoy.
- Mary of Burgundy, Duchess of Burgundy, reigned over the Low Countries from 1477 as the only child of Charles the Bold and his wife Isabella of Bourbon.
- Margaret of Denmark, the daughter of Christian I, King of Denmark, Norway and Sweden, and Dorothea of Brandenburg. IOTL she married to the throne of Scotland.

Well if Edward IV, still dies in 1483, aged 40, I doubt he would be able to object to how England is run. But does not having to fight a rebellion, keep him healthier?
 
Anne Neville was just an idea as Edward IV has already proposing Elizabeth to marry John's son, George Neville, future Duke of Bedford.

As for a marriage abroad, there are a few options:
- Kunigunde of Austria, the daughter of Frederick III, Holy Roman Emperor and his wife Eleanor of Portugal, daughter of King Edward of Portugal.
- Anne and Joan of France, Both daughters of Louis XI of France and his second wife, Charlotte of Savoy.
- Mary of Burgundy, Duchess of Burgundy, reigned over the Low Countries from 1477 as the only child of Charles the Bold and his wife Isabella of Bourbon.
- Margaret of Denmark, the daughter of Christian I, King of Denmark, Norway and Sweden, and Dorothea of Brandenburg. IOTL she married to the throne of Scotland.

Well if Edward IV, still dies in 1483, aged 40, I doubt he would be able to object to how England is run. But does not having to fight a rebellion, keep him healthier?
Interesting if I recall correctly Elizabeth was betrothed to the dauphin at the time?

And hmm I remember reading it was his lifestyle that ended up killing him.

Warwick might still rebel though, especially if Edward once again ignores his suggestion of a French marriage and either betroths Prince Ed to either Kunigunde or Mary.

Also what consequences might arise if Charles the Bold and Margaret of York have a son?
 
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So let's say that Edward IV and his wife have twins in 1466, a boy named Edward and a girl named Elizabeth. Woodville's position at court is more secure now, where would the new heir to the throne be raised? At Ludlow as in otl, or in London?
 
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