Edward IV has older sons?

So I posted something similar to this a while ago, but there's one thing I've been mulling over recently. Edward IV only had a son in 1470, six years after his marriage to Elizabeth Wydeville, and nine years after winning the throne at Towton. And obviously the age of his son Edward V negatively affected the Yorkists when the boy came to the throne. Edward's younger brother, Richard, Duke of York was only ten when his brother ascended the throne as well, another blow, especially given fears over a child King.

The thing I am wondering is, what might the consequences be if say Edward IV and Elizabeth's issue list went something like this:

Edward, Prince of Wales b. 1466
Richard, Duke of York b. 1467
Cecily of York b. 1469
Anne of York b. 1470
George, Duke of Bedford b. 1473
Catherine of York b. 1479

How might having two sons who are of a reasonable age should he die in 1483, affect the Yorkist succession, politics in the country, who might these sons marry. And furthermore, how might it influence things regarding Tudor, and if Edward of Westminster was still alive? Would Warwick rebel? Would Clarence?
 
Well at 16-17 Edward V would be considered of age and there would be no need for a Protectorate and Richard of Gloucester would have no means to take possession of the king so no Princes in the Tower scenario. Henry Tudor probably remains in Brittany and marries a nice Breton girl, perhaps given some type of titles and stays to serve the Duke of Brittany.
 
Well at 16-17 Edward V would be considered of age and there would be no need for a Protectorate and Richard of Gloucester would have no means to take possession of the king so no Princes in the Tower scenario. Henry Tudor probably remains in Brittany and marries a nice Breton girl, perhaps given some type of titles and stays to serve the Duke of Brittany.

Oh interesting, you don't think he'd be brought back?

Also, if Edward V comes to the throne in a scenario where Edward of Westminster survives Barnet etc, what do you think might happen in that scenario?
 
Tudor may possibly be brought back but it would probably be after the succession is stabilized by a few children with a metaphorical bride of Edward V.

Well Edward of Westminster would try to fight him for the throne, the Wars of the Roses would continue for a few more years.
 
Would a surviving Edward of Westminster mean Gloucester can't marry Anne Neville? Or can an annulment be organised (the marriage was reportedly unconsummated)? If there's no Anne-Richard marriage Clarence will expect the entire Warwick inheritance, and if Edward doesn't give it to him then there'll be tension (maybe Clarence gets himself killed earlier than 1478).

As for Edward of Westminster, who could he call on- the Beauforts are extinct (in the male line); Exeter switched back to the Yorkists and subsequently had an "accident"; Oxford may or may not still get captured after his escapades in 1473-4; there's the Tudors and a Courtenay floating about in exile (though Margaret might orchestrate an amnesty for Henry); Buckingham is still likely disaffected; Northumberland may or may not hold onto his ancestral Lancastrian loyalties (with regards to Bosworth IOTL there's a dispute as to whether he betrayed Richard by not committing to the battle or he physically couldn't engage his troops).

Whether Westminster has any chance of succeeding depends on any internal divisions in the Yorkist camp- Richard was obviously very suspicious of the Woodvilles (and this prompted his actions IOTL) but doesn't have the power to oust them ITTL and in any case Edward will be even more loyal to his maternal family than IOTL; Hastings didn't like the Woodvilles either but we can expect him to be thoroughly loyal to Edward IV's son.

And of course without the "usurpation" and apparent murder of the Princes any prospective English claimant might get less foreign support than Tudor did.
 
The marriage wouldn't be annulled; keeping Edward of Westminster's wife (and thus only possible source of Lancastrian legitimate issue/marriage alliance) imprisoned is far more valuable. Richard will have to find someone else to marry. And yes, this will cause complications for the Warwick inheritance.

FWIW Oxford probably doesn't get captured; it seems likely he was acting in support of Clarence when he was captured; here he has a legitimate Lancastrian claimant to support instead.
 
Hmm some interesting suggestions here, what makes one think that Edward V would be more loyal to his mother's family this timeline? Because of a longer time spent with his uncle? Would Edward IV even name his brother in law as his son's guardian this time around?
 
Would Warwick still be likely to go for a power play in taking Clarence and trying to put him on the throne if Edward IV has two male born sons by 1470?
 
Not unusual,especially since the King has spare sons.It's not that pressing to get his first born married asap.
True though I suppose any marriage negotiations might fall through once Ed IV clocks it.

A marriage between Edward V and Joan of France would be quite interesting
 
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