Edmund, Earl of Rutland

He was a younger brother of Edward IV of England and was killed at the battle of Wakefield along with his father. WI: He had lived, married and survived Edward IV. Could this possibly prevent Richard III's usurpation and even the Tudor succession?
 
Was he older than Richard?

If so, Richard's career would be significantly impaired. An older brother, no doubt well endowed with property and retainers of his own, well married to a wife well born and connected, defending the Queen Dowager and royal heirs, versus a younger brother with zero claim to the throne or any kind of regency/protectorate.
 
Was he older than Richard?

If so, Richard's career would be significantly impaired. An older brother, no doubt well endowed with property and retainers of his own, well married to a wife well born and connected, defending the Queen Dowager and royal heirs, versus a younger brother with zero claim to the throne or any kind of regency/protectorate.

In order:

Edmund, George, Richard.

But would Edmund necessarily be loyal to his older brother? I think we have to address his career up to Edward IV's death (which may happen at a different time than OTL - Edmund as a loyal supporter would make a difference in Edward's reign) before addressing afterwards.
 
If Edmund survives, George probably stays reasonably loyal. There's no throne in it for him. Supposedly Edward and Edmund were close, which suggests that Edmund would be more loyal than George was in OTL. Warwick might behave differently too, if he couldn't pull George along on his rebellion. Would George even marry Warwick's daughter?
 
If Edmund survives, George probably stays reasonably loyal. There's no throne in it for him. Supposedly Edward and Edmund were close, which suggests that Edmund would be more loyal than George was in OTL. Warwick might behave differently too, if he couldn't pull George along on his rebellion. Would George even marry Warwick's daughter?

No, but she'd make a nice bride for Edmund given her fantastic inheritance. Edmund would most likely be made a Duke, enjoy military command, Order of the Garter, Privy Council, etc.
 
In order:

Edmund, George, Richard.

But would Edmund necessarily be loyal to his older brother? I think we have to address his career up to Edward IV's death (which may happen at a different time than OTL - Edmund as a loyal supporter would make a difference in Edward's reign) before addressing afterwards.

Ah, cheers.

I'd venture so - given the upheavals of the War of the Roses, I think only a troublesome twerp like Clarence would cause trouble instead of just reaping the delights of being the King's brother.
 
He was a younger brother of Edward IV of England and was killed at the battle of Wakefield along with his father. WI: He had lived, married and survived Edward IV. Could this possibly prevent Richard III's usurpation and even the Tudor succession?

Well first of all does Edmund have children? If so only girls or some boys? Is he loyal during the Lancaster Restoration of 1470-71? Also, what would his relationship with Queen Elizabeth Woodville be like? I remember reading that the hatred of her relatives, or more specifically their powers, was one of the reasons for Richard's usurpation. Also who was named Regent/Lord Protector? Edmund or Richard? With how murky the succession got during the War of the Roses, would there be a chance for Richard to usurp the throne with a more senior male heir alive? Finally what would stop Edmund from mearly pulling a OTL Richard III?
 
He was a younger brother of Edward IV of England and was killed at the battle of Wakefield along with his father. WI: He had lived, married and survived Edward IV. Could this possibly prevent Richard III's usurpation and even the Tudor succession?

Assume the minimal PoD: Edmund is not at Wakefield or gets away instead of being killed.

This shakes up all subsequent events in the Wars of the Roses.

For instance, Edward may never meet Elizabeth Woodville. Or her husband may not be KIA in 1461.

The intrigues between Edward, George, Richard, and Warwick will be greatly altered by the addition of Edmund as a player.
 
As has been generally said it alters everything. IMO it may prevent Warwick becoming so 'over-mighty' as Edward (as he did with Clarence and Gloucester) would promote his family and this would presumably have to come at Neville expense just because of the amazing monopoly on power Warwick enjoyed upon Edward's accession. Warwick would still be powerful but perhaps not as powerful. Similarly the same maybe true of Hastings whose position as the king's confidant might not be the same if his beloved brother who was just a year younger than him is still alive.
 
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