Any eastern cummunist Austria would be awfully small. Maybe the Soviets might make it part of the GDR instead?
A division of the Soviet Occupation Zone between the pro-soviet neighbor states (CSSR and Hungary) would be more probable.
Any eastern cummunist Austria would be awfully small. Maybe the Soviets might make it part of the GDR instead?
A division of the Soviet Occupation Zone between the pro-soviet neighbor states (CSSR and Hungary) would be more probable.
Propaganda reasons speak against that. If there is a Western Bloc Austria,. there also needs an Eastern Bloc Austria as counterpoint.
Propaganda reasons speak against that. If there is a Western Bloc Austria,. there also needs an Eastern Bloc Austria as counterpoint.
Was there a Austrian Communist party which the USSR could have put in charge of Eastern Austria?
Would Vienna have been partioned into a East/West as well?
Thanks for the map.
Idears of capitals of the two Austria's?
Depends on whether German nationalism shares the same fate in TTL as it did in OTL -- i.e. whether the state of affairs allows from the gradual emergence and development of a separate Austrian identity. My guess is that an Austrian identity will not develop, since it was largely a result of attempting to cope with the Austrian State Treaty's strict terms IIRC.Would Austria, once united, join with Germany afterwards?
Depends on whether German nationalism shares the same fate in TTL as it did in OTL -- i.e. whether the state of affairs allows from the gradual emergence and development of a separate Austrian identity. My guess is that an Austrian identity will not develop, since it was largely a result of attempting to cope with the Austrian State Treaty's strict terms IIRC.
Think they'd do an East/West Vienna thing?Thanks for the map.
Idears of capitals of the two Austria's?
Think they'd do an East/West Vienna thing?
Ugh bad case of thread necromancy here
East Berlin could survive as there were Airports within WestBerlin parts.
The UK and US only could use airports outside their assigned occupation zone.
So it would not be able to hold vienna if the Soviets decided to enclose the city.
If you count Vienna belonging to Eastern Austria (Soviet zone) almost half of Austrias popolation would live in the Eastern Republic, so there would be 2 almost equal Austrian States.
Strategically Austria provides a broad avenue into Southern Germany and through Styria and Carinthia even into Northern Italy. So Russia might have a strong motive to stay in Austria. In the other direction (eastward) the acess is more difficukt as around Vienna no flat terrain allows approach from the West. and hilly Carinthia and Styria makes progress difficult too.
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Um, I'm sorry for the thread necromancy?Welcome to the board and all that, but please don't revive four-year-old threads like this in future.
Yes, just like Berlin Vienna was split into 4 sectors after the war. And just like Berlin, Vienan was inside the respective Soviet Occupation Zone, so, really, circumstances would have been quite similar. Well, not entirely the same - IIRC, the Sectros in Vienan were not as coherent as in Berlin, and often consisted of several enclaves instead of one continous territory. So things couldve been messy. Especially as Central Vienna was a sort of fifth sector, administered together by the four powers. Arguments over that could become really nasty...
Vienna, post-WW2:
Wasn't the centre of Berlin an international zone, too?I think ultimately how Vienna was split into sectors makes it nearly impossible to divide Austria. The very centre of Vienna was an international zone which changed hands every month between the US, British, French and Soviet forces. How would this work in two Austrian states? And how do you build an Vienna Wall with that international zone around?