East Frisia part of the Netherlands

In a scenarion during the Vienna conference, is there any chance that East Frisia can end up Dutch? It does not have to be at Vienna but some things during the congress can be changed. Is it possible?

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In a scenarion during the Vienna conference, is there any chance that East Frisia can end up Dutch? It does not have to be at Vienna but some things during the congress can be changed. Is it possible?
In theory I would say, yes it is possible. The problem is you need some sort of compensation for Hanover (or Prussia depending on how you look at it). East-Frisia should be exchanged for some other territory. There is an area though that would be suitable though: Luxemburg. Both Prussia as well as the Netherlands wanted Luxemburg. OTL the compromise was made that they shared Luxemburg (Luxemburg in personal union with the Netherlands, while at the same time being part of the German Confederation). I think it is possible that another compromise is made in which Luxemburg is traded for East-Frisia.

In that case Prussia probably needed to compensate Hanover somehow, since East-Frisia ended up as part of Hanover, but I suspect some area in Westphalia could work.
 
Probably, but might the area (which I think is populated by speakers of Low Saxon, not Frisian or Standard Dutch) get swept up in the German nationalist movement. You might have the Netherlands getting East Frisia by Vienna but then losing it to Prussia later, like Denmark did with Schleswig-Holstein.
 
Probably, but might the area (which I think is populated by speakers of Low Saxon, not Frisian or Standard Dutch) get swept up in the German nationalist movement. You might have the Netherlands getting East Frisia by Vienna but then losing it to Prussia later, like Denmark did with Schleswig-Holstein.
I am not so sure. The North East of the Netherlands also spoke Low Saxon. Besides that, East-Frisia was closely connected to the Netherlands in the 17th and part of the 18th century it had been effectively a Dutch vasal state (the administrative language might even have been Dutch, not sure) and at the time of the kingdom of Holland it was even part of the Netherlands. Luxemburg and Limburg were Dutch and part of the German Confederation, but Germany never declared war over it, like they did with Schleswig-Holstein. Good relations with the Netherlands were more important than a small piece of land. Especialy considering that East-Frisia was significantly less important than Luxemburg. And that is even assuming that East-Frisia would become part of the German confederation, which I doubt. Luxemburg was only made part of it because of the compromise between Prussia and the Netherlands. Other parts that used to be German (or at least part of the HRE) were not, like all of Belgium. So I suspect that East-Frisia would become an integral part of the Netherlands, not just a personal union.
 
I am not so sure. The North East of the Netherlands also spoke Low Saxon. Besides that, East-Frisia was closely connected to the Netherlands in the 17th and part of the 18th century it had been effectively a Dutch vasal state (the administrative language might even have been Dutch, not sure) and at the time of the kingdom of Holland it was even part of the Netherlands. Luxemburg and Limburg were Dutch and part of the German Confederation, but Germany never declared war over it, like they did with Schleswig-Holstein. Good relations with the Netherlands were more important than a small piece of land. Especialy considering that East-Frisia was significantly less important than Luxemburg. And that is even assuming that East-Frisia would become part of the German confederation, which I doubt. Luxemburg was only made part of it because of the compromise between Prussia and the Netherlands. Other parts that used to be German (or at least part of the HRE) were not, like all of Belgium. So I suspect that East-Frisia would become an integral part of the Netherlands, not just a personal union.

Assuming East Frisia is given to Prussia in 1815. Will the Dutch agree to give Luxemburg for it? Around 1830 or just before the Belgian revolution?
 
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