Earlier British Conquest of Canada lead to Canadian colonies joining Alt American Revolution?

Pretty much as the tin says, if Britain were able to take Canada sooner, would that increase the chances of the colonies joining an alternate American Revolution? I’d imagine earlier Conquest would lead to more Anglo settlements in the Canadian colonies and more interaction with the American colonies. So could that lead to the colonists in Canada joining their American brethren in revolting?
 
If the Anglo area becomes a separate colony it is likely to become Patriot, providing the population is big enough. Note small population places like Nova Scotia and Florida were dependent on the British military for their economy and therefore Loyalist. However if there is an English minority in a mainly French colony, they will likely stay loyal to protect them from French domination.
 
Yes, it would, as you indicated, it would have allowed for more Anglos, particularly New Englanders , to settle Canada. The areas with the strongest amount of American support in Canada were the Anglo community in Montreal, and the New England Planters in the lands taken from the Acadians after their expulsion. Upper Canada was sparsely populated at this point and in Quebec, there was enough of a culture clash between the natives and the Congregationalist New Englanders (remember, the Continental Army had issues with "Pope's Day" celebrations in 1775, and a lot of the songs and rhetoric of Patriots in the war, stemming from the Cromwellian side of the English Civil War, with which most Patriots identified with, were very anti-Catholic) that there was little support to be found there.

However, it should be noted that if there is more American settlement, it means nothing if the military situation is unchanged. Georgia in OTL was probably much more Tory leaning than, say, modern day New Brunswick and Nova Scotia, but it meant nothing because the Tories were all driven out, just as the Patriots were late in the war from the Maritimes.
 
Since one of the reasons for the increased taxation on the American Colonies was to pay for the French & Indian War wouldn't an earlier war and victory versus the French in this scenario lead to an earlier American Revolution?
 
Since one of the reasons for the increased taxation on the American Colonies was to pay for the French & Indian War wouldn't an earlier war and victory versus the French in this scenario lead to an earlier American Revolution?

It could be that England conquered Canad but not Louisiana or Ohio river valley which is still French for a while longer?
 

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It all comes down to authorial choice.

Potential earlier conquests of Canada could come if you wank the British war effort in the earlier intercolonial wars of the 1700s.

The English and Scots came even closer to permanent conquest of Canada in the 1600s. They besieged Quebec in the 1690s, and seized Quebec in 1627.
 

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It could be that England conquered Canad but not Louisiana or Ohio river valley which is still French for a while longer?

An Anglo conquest of only Canada but not the Mississippi watershed would be somewhat strange, but a very interesting scenario. New England would feel more secure but the southern colonies and Pennsylvania would be more frustrated.

If French Louisiana still controls most of the middle of the continent, will the English attempt to expel the Canadiens, a la Acadien? Will they maximally encourage Anglo migration into Quebec?
 
An Anglo conquest of only Canada but not the Mississippi watershed would be somewhat strange, but a very interesting scenario. New England would feel more secure but the southern colonies and Pennsylvania would be more frustrated.

If French Louisiana still controls most of the middle of the continent, will the English attempt to expel the Canadiens, a la Acadien? Will they maximally encourage Anglo migration into Quebec?

I could definitely see more Canadiens expelled into Louisiana
 
It all comes down to authorial choice.

Potential earlier conquests of Canada could come if you wank the British war effort in the earlier intercolonial wars of the 1700s.

The English and Scots came even closer to permanent conquest of Canada in the 1600s. They besieged Quebec in the 1690s, and seized Quebec in 1627.

A 1690s conquest of Canada would be interesting
 
It all comes down to authorial choice.

Potential earlier conquests of Canada could come if you wank the British war effort in the earlier intercolonial wars of the 1700s.

The English and Scots came even closer to permanent conquest of Canada in the 1600s. They besieged Quebec in the 1690s, and seized Quebec in 1627.

The English never actually besieged the city in 1690. They had no real battle plan and basically expected Frontenac to surrender without a fight. They were caught off-guard when he decided to fight instead ("I have no reply to make to your general other than from the mouths of my cannons and muskets") and pretty much botched everything.
 
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