Earlier Allied victory in North Africa?

How can the Allies win in North Africa earlier? A more successful Operation Compass? Not redirecting the same British divisions that went towards the Balkans? What effects could this have on the rest of the war?
 
I think this is quite easy. Delay the Greek debacle in some way or interfere with the timing of the Afrika Corps. Hell even a few miles of railway might be enough.
As for longer term effects.
This greatly strengthens the uk in the Med and weakens Vichy north africa. The Brits will have more forces available as will Italy but conversely they will have less experience. It is quite possible they do something stupid like invade the balkans or Iran which will soak up the resources. It would be much easier to get forces to the far east which probably means the Japanese do not get Burma or even Malaya.
 
How does this affect Greece or the rest of the Balkans?
Greece will have a larger population (no starvation under German occupation) for starters. If the British invade the Balkans it will still be a mess (the other groups will still refuse to support the Serbs and supply lines favor the Germans and Italians over the British). The latter delays the Soviet invasion and likely redirects Hitler's attention toward defeating the British first.
 
Greece will have a larger population (no starvation under German occupation) for starters. If the British invade the Balkans it will still be a mess (the other groups will still refuse to support the Serbs and supply lines favor the Germans and Italians over the British). The latter delays the Soviet invasion and likely redirects Hitler's attention toward defeating the British first.
How about Yugoslavia?
 
How about Yugoslavia?
It becomes a basket case. The Serbs support the British, the Croatians side with the Italians and Germans. I just don't see reconciliation especially since the British will keep it from being a swift campaign. Does the Yugoslav atrocities come fifty years early?
 
It becomes a basket case. The Serbs support the British, the Croatians side with the Italians and Germans. I just don't see reconciliation especially since the British will keep it from being a swift campaign. Does the Yugoslav atrocities come fifty years early?
Atrocities will definitely happen if the Croats decide to breakaway from the Kingdom of Yugoslavia, especially against and committed by Serb minorities spread throughout the Axis-occupied regions of Yugoslavia. What other groups would side with and against the Allies?
 
Atrocities will definitely happen if the Croats decide to breakaway from the Kingdom of Yugoslavia, especially against and committed by Serb minorities spread throughout the Axis-occupied regions of Yugoslavia. What other groups would side with and against the Allies?

The Slovenes support the Axis. Communist forces remain largely neutral (though I still see Tito stepping up as things worsen). Macedonia supports the Allies (they see Bulgaria salivating). Dalmatia is annexed by the Italians and has no enthusiasm either way.
 
The Slovenes support the Axis. Communist forces remain largely neutral (though I still see Tito stepping up as things worsen). Macedonia supports the Allies (they see Bulgaria salivating). Dalmatia is annexed by the Italians and has no enthusiasm either way.
What do you think anti-Axis resistance could look like in the Axis-occupied regions?
 
What do you think anti-Axis resistance could look like in the Axis-occupied regions?
I'm not sure there was much resistance in those regions OTL. In the Croatian areas I don't think there is room for subtlety: the Croats are going to go on a genocidal spree so either you accept death or flee to Allied lines. The Dalmatians weren't that far removed from foreign rule (Hapsburg) and after seeing what is going on South will likely cozy up to the Italians as best they can for protection. There's going to be a lot of population movement.
 
I'm not sure there was much resistance in those regions OTL. In the Croatian areas I don't think there is room for subtlety: the Croats are going to go on a genocidal spree so either you accept death or flee to Allied lines. The Dalmatians weren't that far removed from foreign rule (Hapsburg) and after seeing what is going on South will likely cozy up to the Italians as best they can for protection. There's going to be a lot of population movement.
Let's say resistance emerges anyway - what could it look like?
 

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How can the Allies win in North Africa earlier? A more successful Operation Compass? Not redirecting the same British divisions that went towards the Balkans? What effects could this have on the rest of the war?
Have the Italians go in much harder in Greece in 1940-early 1941 so that they are more vulnerable in North Africa, but Greece is off the table for British reinforcements. Since the Italians are doing better in Greece Hitler thinks they are fine until too late, so Libya gets rolled up because Churchill can't intervene in Greece so keeps fresh troops pushing on the Italians.
 
Have the Italians go in much harder in Greece in 1940-early 1941 so that they are more vulnerable in North Africa, but Greece is off the table for British reinforcements. Since the Italians are doing better in Greece Hitler thinks they are fine until too late, so Libya gets rolled up because Churchill can't intervene in Greece so keeps fresh troops pushing on the Italians.
Could this see the Allies launching an invasion into Italy and/or the Balkans?
 
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