DWBI: President Nixon shot!

Penelope

Banned
Rumors are coming in from New York City that President Nixon has been shot, his condition is currently unkown, and no one outside of New York knows anything about the assassination.

Your thoughts?

OOC: The date is December 5th, 1963.
 
It's just a rumour, but I have it on good authority from an old war buddy in the NYPD that some 8 year old kid from Oklahoma is claiming credit for it. Says he did it to impress the late Eleanor Roosevelt. Parents are some bigshots down in Texas, own that Hinckley Oil company, if you can believe that.

(ooc: I apologise immediately.)
 

Keenir

Banned
Why are we on the internet? :)p)

I don't know about you, but I'm on the internet because you guys are my friends - and if I wasn't with friends right now, I'd be like those mourners on the tv, broken down and sobbing at the loss of a great President.
 
Why are we on the internet? :)p)

More seriously, where is Vice-President Gerald Ford? Is he safe?

I suspect Rep. Ford's perfectly safe, but Vice President? Did the bastards get Vice President Lodge as well? :confused:

(OOC: judging by the date scifiguy specified, the POD is Nixon beating Kennedy, in which case Henry Cabot Lodge would have been VP.)
 
More seriously, where is Vice-President Gerald Ford? Is he safe?

If Nixon dies then we are screwed. Ford has been Vice President for less than a year! I'm really wishing Henry Cabot Lodge hadn't resigned in March. I didn't really like him much, but at least he knew what he was doing. I still don't understand why Ford got appointed VP to begin with.

OOC: I'm guessing you just didn't bother to look up who Nixon's running mate was in 1960. :rolleyes:

EDIT: Never mind, dilbert719 already covered it.
 

Penelope

Banned
I'm not sure what's going on myself.. Lodge was at the event in New York, but he was in a different vehicle than the President. There's still no word on the condition of Governor Rockefeller, or the First Lady.
 
I don't know that we're going to get anywhere running about like chickens with our heads cut off. If we learned anything from the Cuban Missile Incident, it's that we can't just go off half-cocked. We need information. Anyone have a radio handy, or a TV?
 
I suspect Rep. Ford's perfectly safe, but Vice President? Did the bastards get Vice President Lodge as well? :confused:

(OOC: judging by the date scifiguy specified, the POD is Nixon beating Kennedy, in which case Henry Cabot Lodge would have been VP.)

If Nixon dies then we are screwed. Ford has been Vice President for less than a year! I'm really wishing Henry Cabot Lodge hadn't resigned in March. I didn't really like him much, but at least he knew what he was doing. I still don't understand why Ford got appointed VP to begin with.

OOC: I'm guessing you just didn't bother to look up who Nixon's running mate was in 1960. :rolleyes:

EDIT: Never mind, dilbert719 already covered it.

I have two new additions to my ignore list. I guess neither of you realize that the only thing we know is that the POD is earlier than November 1960, or that Ford was on Nixon's short list, or understand how not to contradict things that have already been stated in a DBWI that aren't ASB.
 

Penelope

Banned
I have two new additions to my ignore list. I guess neither of you realize that the only thing we know is that the POD is earlier than November 1960, or that Ford was on Nixon's short list, or understand how not to contradict things that have already been stated in a DBWI that aren't ASB.

I thought it was fairly obvious that the POD was the 1960 Election, but you don't have to get all pissy about it.
 
I thought it was fairly obvious that the POD was the 1960 Election, but you don't have to get all pissy about it.

If being "pissy" means placing on ignore for a little while those who ignore basic rules of DBWI and send :rolleyes: in the direction of people who know more about a situation than they do, then so be it.

Lodge was widely considered to be an awful VP pick. Since Nixon wins the 1960 election, you obviously have to have some sort of POD that allows him to win; you can't magically transfer votes.

Gerald Ford was, along with Lodge, Cooper, and a few others, on Nixon's "short list" for the Vice Presidency. Nixon also needed around 50 electoral votes to win. Kennedy carried Michigan and other Midwestern states by a few percentage points; it's not too much of a stretch to assume that a Nixon-Ford ticket could have resulted in a Nixon win.
 

Penelope

Banned
If being "pissy" means placing on ignore for a little while those who ignore basic rules of DBWI and send :rolleyes: in the direction of people who know more about a situation than they do, then so be it.

Lodge was widely considered to be an awful VP pick. Since Nixon wins the 1960 election, you obviously have to have some sort of POD that allows him to win; you can't magically transfer votes.

Gerald Ford was, along with Lodge, Cooper, and a few others, on Nixon's "short list" for the Vice Presidency. Nixon also needed around 50 electoral votes to win. Kennedy carried Michigan and other Midwestern states by a few percentage points; it's not too much of a stretch to assume that a Nixon-Ford ticket could have resulted in a Nixon win.

I think it's fairly easy to move around votes, as the three closest states were a little over .45 percent for Kennedy. Make Nixon do something as small as a simple speech, and it could be enough to win him a few states with that close of a race.

Illinois was only .18 percent over Nixon, for Kennedy. Missouri was about .40, and New Jersey was only around .80 percent for Kennedy. Giving the 1960 Election to Richard Nixon would be like giving Gore the 2000 election. Easy.
 
I think it's fairly easy to move around votes, as the three closest states were a little over .45 percent for Kennedy. Make Nixon do something as small as a simple speech, and it could be enough to win him a few states with that close of a race.

Illinois was only .18 percent over Nixon, for Kennedy. Missouri was about .40, and New Jersey was only around .80 percent for Kennedy. Giving the 1960 Election to Richard Nixon would be like giving Gore the 2000 election. Easy.

And one of the "minor" ways to do that would be by having Gerald Ford picked VP. :cool:
 
I have two new additions to my ignore list. I guess neither of you realize that the only thing we know is that the POD is earlier than November 1960, or that Ford was on Nixon's short list, or understand how not to contradict things that have already been stated in a DBWI that aren't ASB.

My sincerest apologies for not having Nixon's short list on hand, and assuming that a random House rep not in leadership would not be on said list. Funny how ASB things sound when you don't have primary sources available, isn't it?

I'm well aware of the basic rules of DBWI. Perhaps I should check with you in the future before posting, to ensure that I have enough facts to suit your standards? Cut me a break.
 

Penelope

Banned
And one of the "minor" ways to do that would be by having Gerald Ford picked VP. :cool:

Not particularly.

All it would take is a speech, or a different preformance in the 1960 Televised Debate. And, I seriously doubt Nixon would pick Ford in 1960. Prescott Bush was on his Veep Shortlist, among others. The far more likely POD is that Nixon decides to rest before the first debate, saving him from the poor debate preformance. Or, he decides to abandon his ridiculous promise to 'campaign in all 50 states', and instead goes to campaign in more valuable states such as Illinois, Missouri, Michigan, New Jersey, etc.
 
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