Dutch-Swedish Empire

EvolvedSaurian

I have an idea but I wanna make sure nobody thinks I'm nuts.

POD: Gustavus Adolphus survives the Battle of Lutzen.

Elector of Prussia dies, Sweden and Prussia unite. The Vasas and the Oranges intermarry and voila!
 
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EvolvedSaurian

Wendell said:
This is not my area of expertise. Search the threads. I think this topic has come up before.
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A thread about a Dutch-Swedish Empire has come up before?? Now I'm scared.

I can't seem to find anyone. Not so scared now.
 

Wendell

EvolvedSaurian said:
A thread about a Dutch-Swedish Empire has come up before?? Now I'm scared.

I can't seem to find anyone. Not so scared now.
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Okay, this precise idea has not,but there have been threads about this time period, I think.
 

EvolvedSaurian

Maybe Sweden getting Baltic supremacy, then going to the Netherlands to help them against the Spanish, maybe snapping up a few Germanies along the way.
 

arctic warrior

There was recently a Gustavus Adophus doesn't die at Lutzen WI. Look it up. The question of uniting Sweden and the Netherlands weren't touched upon. Of course every protestant in the time would have seen Gustavus as the champion of Lutherantism and rally but effecting an Empire with the Netherlands? How do YOU see this happen?
 

EvolvedSaurian

arctic warrior said:
There was recently a Gustavus Adophus doesn't die at Lutzen WI. Look it up. The question of uniting Sweden and the Netherlands weren't touched upon. Of course every protestant in the time would have seen Gustavus as the champion of Lutherantism and rally but effecting an Empire with the Netherlands? How do YOU see this happen?
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Dynastic union, somehow.
 

Fearless Leader

Donor
IIRC the Dutch were more of a republic not a monarchy

Also keep in mind that there is a huge religious gulf between Lutheran Sweden and Germany and Calvinist Holland.

I just don't see it happening.
 

Max Sinister

Banned
Quite a counterweight to Austria. Now we get a system with five powers: England/Britain, Sweden-Holland-Prussia, Austria and/or Spain, France. Until Russia enters the stage.

Why don't you write a TL yourself?
 

EvolvedSaurian

Max Sinister said:
Quite a counterweight to Austria. Now we get a system with five powers: England/Britain, Sweden-Holland-Prussia, Austria and/or Spain, France. Until Russia enters the stage.

Why don't you write a TL yourself?
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I'm not sure how to get around some of these problems.

I think a Sweden this powerful would keep Russia out of the picture for quite a while.
 
Thande

Thande

Donor
What happens to Denmark? Didn't Gustav Adolf have plans for a new Union of Kalmar, but on Swedish terms?
 
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