Dutch Formosa

Krall

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I don't know, but I need to know what year it happened in to see if I can incorporate it into my TL.

What year was it in?
 

Valdemar II

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I don't know, but I need to know what year it happened in to see if I can incorporate it into my TL.

What year was it in?


wikipedia said:
In 1661, a naval fleet of 1000 warships, led by the Ming loyalist Koxinga, landed at Lu'ermen to attack Taiwan in order to destroy and oust the Dutch from Zeelandia. Following a nine month siege, Koxinga captured the Dutch Fort Zeelandia and defeated the Dutch. Koxinga then forced the Dutch Government to sign a peace treaty at Zeelandia on 1 February 1662, and leave Taiwan. From then on, Taiwan became Koxinga's base for the Kingdom of Tungning.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_under_European_rule
 

Thande

Donor
It wasn't an officially sanctioned Chinese government expedition, that's the thing - Koxinga was acting pretty much alone. Which illustrates how indefensible a position the Dutch were in, as indeed they were in Sri Lanka, when the natives reduced their control to the coast only. Trade colonies are only profitable if they're not being attacked every five minutes, and national pride isn't at stake as it might be later on, so there's not a lot of incentive to make the Dutch keep somewhere if it keeps getting attacked - and I suspect if you get rid of Koxinga, some ATL analogue will be around a generation or two later at most.
 

Susano

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It wasn't an officially sanctioned Chinese government expedition, that's the thing

Even more, Koxinga didnt conquer it for China. Koxinga was a Ming loyalist rebel against the Qing, and hence established pretty much an own kingdom on Taiwan, instead of conquering it for China. This would be a misconception. China later absorbed that kingdoom, but it existed for some generations.
 
It wasn't an officially sanctioned Chinese government expedition, that's the thing - Koxinga was acting pretty much alone. Which illustrates how indefensible a position the Dutch were in, as indeed they were in Sri Lanka, when the natives reduced their control to the coast only. Trade colonies are only profitable if they're not being attacked every five minutes, and national pride isn't at stake as it might be later on, so there's not a lot of incentive to make the Dutch keep somewhere if it keeps getting attacked - and I suspect if you get rid of Koxinga, some ATL analogue will be around a generation or two later at most.

Nah. Koxinga wan'ted to use Taiwan as a base to attack the Qingo n the ainland; a Generation later, the Qing are firmly in control.

Migh t be ome weird side effects; the Qing don't try expelling everyone from the coast to starve him out, for one; rather than trade through Canton, Chinese might meet up with European merchants at Formosa.
 
Formosa was a relative sucsesfull trading post ( mostly deer scins) and one of the few ocasions the Dutch sucsesfully covered the original population ( no chinese) to the protestant believe.
The last gouvernor of Formosa Frederik Coyett, reported regular and every time more urgency to reinfoce the garrisons and request of the support of war ships. All his requests were ignored or not taken seriously. This was more due to the incompetence of his superiour the gouvernor general of Batavia, Maetsuyker.
One time 12 ships were sent but returned whitout firing a shot, at least not to Coxinga troops.
The force with, Coxinga invade the island was overwhelming so 12 ships would not make any difference.
Formosa only could remain in Dutch (VOC) hands if Coxinga did not had interst in it or if his invasion fleet had major setbacks, like a storm or something.
If the there was no conquest of the island by the Chinese, it most likely would become a kind of Dutch China, with a Calvinist relegion, like Goa is a bit of Portugal in India.
View of fort Zeelandia on the island T'ai Huan for the coast of Formosa (Taiwan)

Zeelandia Formosa.JPG
 
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